karlbertil

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@RobhRyan @ponkliquid @ecu3d @telephonehigh @eyesofblueblue But you just don't actually tell me why tho? Like if you're such an expert on everything that has to do with concerts, surely you can tell me why it's wrong. But you never do.

It's just the same thing repeated over and over "you can't live in the moment". I can. Now what?

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@ponkliquid @RobhRyan @ecu3d @telephonehigh @eyesofblueblue I do go. I just said I have been to one. And I will go to more. Why wouldn't I talk about it? How does this make any sense at all?

How many concerts do you have to go to before you're allowed to have any say in it, and why?

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@RobhRyan @ponkliquid @ecu3d @telephonehigh @eyesofblueblue Okay so now you're saying people like me SHOULD stay at home. The girl I'm responding to is saying it's a bad thing if people stay home.

You're saying the complete opposite

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@RobhRyan @ponkliquid @ecu3d @telephonehigh @eyesofblueblue What? Do you think I'm looking at my phone the whole time? Do you not think I'm enjoying the artist and experience?

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@lukevs @angelmoding @sunbugclearcup I just think this is a skill issue or something. Maybe you can't, but I can. That's all. Like idk what else to say to you. You don't know me

That's a crazy thing to say imo. How is someone who is able to call for help or use a flashlight not safer than someone who can't?

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@RobhRyan @ponkliquid @ecu3d @telephonehigh @eyesofblueblue I've been to one and no I haven't. Does that change anything I said?

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@ponkliquid @ecu3d @RobhRyan @telephonehigh @eyesofblueblue I'd absolutely understand some kind of "ban" during certain songs that might be unreleased. Or to not allow ppl to post the clips and make money from it. But I don't understand being against just recording for memories

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@ponkliquid @ecu3d @RobhRyan @telephonehigh @eyesofblueblue You were making it sound like people will stop going to concerts and watch from home instead. That will never happen.

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@RobhRyan @ponkliquid @ecu3d @telephonehigh @eyesofblueblue Why not?

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@lukevs @angelmoding @sunbugclearcup No? I can film without watching the screen yk? I can hold the phone in one hand and look with my eyes at the actual concerts. I don't need to see my phone

What do you mean? Yes I think women got attacked before phones. Thats the whole problem? That it's less safe without a phone

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@CrystalGibson_ @nuggetfanpage2 @sunbugclearcup Yeah, that's annoying. But that's not me. Who am I annoying?

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@ponkliquid @ecu3d @RobhRyan @telephonehigh @eyesofblueblue What? Because people want to go to concerts? What kinda stupid argument is that?

We've had phones at concerts for years and people still go. Why do people still go to concerts then? What the fuck are you saying?

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@ecu3d @lovingsteps @RobhRyan @telephonehigh @eyesofblueblue Does that also apply to racism like the other person brought up?

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@RobhRyan @lovingsteps @ecu3d @telephonehigh @eyesofblueblue Does that also apply to racism like the other person brought up?

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@lukevs @angelmoding @sunbugclearcup Why do you think I'm watching the screen???

You really think it's safe to walk around in the evening without a phone? For young women?

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@lukevs @angelmoding @sunbugclearcup No? Im asking questions. I want to understand how you can defend phoneless concerts and that's why I'm pointing out how your arguments don't make sense.

I'm not being asked anything because I'm not going. Also I can definitely live in the moment? And wdym by invented scenarios??

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@lovingsteps @ecu3d @RobhRyan @telephonehigh @eyesofblueblue Also are you trying to say we should just let life be unfair?

You want people to accept that life is unfair when it comes to concerts.

But I assume you don't want people to accept that life is unfair when it comes to racism? So what are you even trying to say?

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@lovingsteps @ecu3d @RobhRyan @telephonehigh @eyesofblueblue I kinda get what you're trying to say, but also not? Racism is not "easy" to fix. In theory maybe, but you can't just "fix" racism. That's not possible. It has always existed.

Something that is possible is letting fans have phones at concerts. That's been done for many years

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@split_splitting I don't get this argument?

One thing was possible in the past, therefore we shouldn't allow it today.

How does that make sense? I can (kinda) buy other arguments, but this seems illogical to me. Like so what? Why are concerts 20 years ago relevant?

[karlbertil @bertil474]

@ecu3d @RobhRyan @telephonehigh @eyesofblueblue Yeahh... but for what? You're right, but why? Why does it have to be like that when it is very easy to fix it?