I never had an issue with Kurds talking about what happened after Islam. 11th century Kurds were just about known as Kurds and not as nomads. Also, you need to read what it says. It states that Mardin was under Kurdish rule for 29 years. We talk about real history from ancient times and then the continuous presence from the first years of Christianity and until today and you talk about Kurds ruling 29 years. Then we talk about the Kurds and you bring in the Marwanids.
The Kaldee dynasty ruled Babylonia for some 80 years. Does that mean that the Babylonians became Kaldee people? Marwanid family ruled between 10th and 11th centuries the Diyar Bekir region of northern Mesopotamia, centered in the modern-day Silvan. Does that make the northern Mesopotamia region from Mosul to Diyar Bekir became Kurdish? These exaggerations and misrepresentations must end.
Zazas are NOT Kurds.
This issue of the Zaza people are Kurds ethnically was born from efforts by Kurdish nationalists in Turkiye from the 1980s to convince everyone that such was the case.
lets read the following sources:
1. Kurmanji (one of Kurdish languages) and Zaza are both Iranian languages, but few, if any, Kurmanji speakers understand Zaza.
Source: Martin van Bruinessen. The Ethnic Identity of the Kurds in Turkey.
2. The language of the Zaza, while a pure Iranian tongue, has little in common with Kurdish in grammatical construction and choice of words, and shows a few common features with the Guran and Lurish.
Source: E. B. Soane. Grammar of the Kurmanji or Kurdish Language.
3. Zaza leaders reject the Kurdish claims and emphasize linguistic, historical, and ancestral differences, pointing to the distinct origins of the Zaza language and the historical migration of their ancestors from the Daylam region of northern Iran.
4. The people who claim that Zazas are Kurds should answer: Are Kurds Turkmens?
Source: Jacques W. Redway. All Around Asia. p. 287
5. In general, the relationship between Kurdish and Median are not closer than the affinities between the latter and other North Western dialects — Baluchi, Talishi, South Caspian, Zaza, Gurani, etc."
Source: Garnik Asatrian. Prolegomena to the Study of the Kurds.
6. Other scholars have traced how the attempted assimilation of Alevi religious practices to Turkishness sparked a counter-history by Kurdish intellectuals, leading to the politicization of Zaza- and Kurmanji-speaking Alevi groups (referring to Leezenberg 2003).
Source: Christopher Houston. Anthropology of Kurdistan. Department of Anthropology, Macquarie University, Sydney. Oxford Bibliographies series. 2017.
This old broken record, oh the Assyrian name was invented by the British in the 19th century is getting boring. Open your eyes wide and read:
What are these saying in the 2nd, 16th, 17th, etc. etc. centuries?
I could provide you with over 100 of these references.
If you do not know the facts about a subject, it is better to be quiet.
and others included Israel Ibn Zakaria, Bakht-Ishu, Isa ibn Yahya ibn Ibrahim, Yusuf al-Khuri al-Qass, Abu Matta ibn Yunis, al-Hunanyn ibn Ibrahim, etc.
Most of these knew Assyrian (Syriac) language because they translated many Greek work into Syriac and then into Arabic as well.
Why would an Arab know the Assyrian (Syriac) language so perfectly that he would make great translations?
I wished you did not come to this point. Many people have the tendency to exaggerate, make false claims and begin insulting others when someone hit on a sensitive nerve.
We know the history and there is no need for all this.
1. The true Arab history is that of al-Jahiliya, the age of ignorance OR Pre-Islamic Era.
2. We cannot say the Arabs ruled from India to Spain. Islam ruled from India to Spain.
3. It was not an Arab civilization, it was an Islamic civilization. Who says that? It is Dr. Khazal al-Majidi, an Arab, but a learned Arab.
4. Most of the doctors, translators, scientists, and other learned people during the Abbasid Caliphates were the Assyrian (Syriac) speakers, members of the Church of the East and Syriac Orthodox Church, such as Hunayn ibn Ishaq, Qusta ibn Luqa, Banu Musa brothers, or Sabian Mandeans like Thabit ibn Qurra and others, many of whom were the foundation of Dar al-Hikma of Baghdad.
So when Islam under the Arabs created the Islamic empire, the Assyrians were not living in villages as you claimed, but there is possibility that some did, which is common.
Lets have a productive dialogue
Jennifer Siebel got ($128B) in State funding, when her husband happens to be Governor
Chart illustrates how the money was moved around, as a way to make it appear legit
The feds subpoenaed their bank accts
The Whistleblower is from (CA) this won't end well for either of them
@HasanNasse55492@FredAprim The Arab revolt was fake, they were all British agents paid in gold coins for loyalty!, read Peace to end all peace!, Arabs preferred to be riled by ottomans over countries like Britain or Germany!, Arabs fought In Ottoman armies if you haven’t heard!
Traitor against who professor?!, I am ethnically Assyrian and Christian what obligation I have towards Arab tribesmen!!!, we were fu**ed by Persians you say, what did Persians and Ottomans do to you then?!, what is Iran doing to you today!!or even a small country like Kuwait!!, Assyrians massacred in WW1 were about 300k, our population decline was engineered and we were not allowed to grow!, the survived only were more than most gulf states put together, how come they have countries!!, Iraq’s population was 2 to 3 million in 1920 some 500k were Kurds professor!, plus the ones in the south of Ajam and Indian ancestry pausing as Arab or Iraqis!,and the real name of the country in western sources was Mesopotamia until WW1!, Iraq is a term from 1920’s!, what did you create!, look at your state today and it’s same old same old, there is nothing you can do, western powers created you, and they are ones who will decide what will happen next if you haven’t noticed!!, so you screaming your lungs out will make no difference!!!
People like you, we are Assyrian nationalists ,we are not Arabs!, Assyrian Levies did not play victim, they fought well indeed, I don’t think you heard of them!, we are not Chaldean Sir!,Britain and the west betrayed us otherwise no Arab or Kurd could stop the Assyrian Levies!, Ottomans and their allies massacred over 300k Assyrians, what were Arab casualties in WW1 in today’s Iraq!, Arabs in Iraq revolted against Britain no one else!, one day they served Ottomans, today they serve Iran, some today serve Turkey!, there is no nationalism in Iraq in my view, there is Arab tribalism! and sectarianism!, it’s set on a very fragile structure if you haven’t noticed, you blame everything on the west except yourselves!, no Arab state like or care about Iraq in my view!!
People have right , no one is talking about restoring an empire but Kurds I believe, Assyrians have right to live and preserve their culture autonomously over their ancestral homeland, a right that was denied in 1843-46, 1915, 1933 through massacres and genocide, this existed much earlier and continued to our days, who gives the right to certain people to terrorize indigenous people in their ancestral lands for hundreds of years for being Christian!, I tell you the modern world order is broken, but this clown show will not persist forever!
Kurdish history is fabricated to serve modern day Kurdish national agenda.
For example, the 1597 Sharafkhan Bidlisi’s publication Sharafnama, published in Persian, is one of the few Kurdish history texts produced prior to the 19th century. It is regarded by Kurds as evidence of the Kurdish national spirit and the most important Kurdish literature. However, modern Kurdish nationalists have corrupted its text and/or purpose. For example, the modern name of a Kurdish hero Kawa who supposedly fought the tyrant Assyrian king is not mentioned and does not exist in Sharafnama.
In Sharafnama, this is the quote from Sharaf Khan (page 21):
"As it is understood, the name “Kurd” was given to them [the Kurds] as a soubriquet due to the great degree of their bravery. The proof is that many famous heroes of the past and many well-known braves have come from this heroic nation. For example, the famous hero Rostam bin Zal who lived at the time of Kayqubad was of them [Kurds]. Since this hero was born in the region of Sistan he became famous as Rostam of Zal. The Shahnama’s writer Firdawsi introduces him as Rostam the Kurd."
Source: Djene Rhys Bajalan. Şeref Xan’s Sharafnama: Kurdish Ethno-Politics in the Early Modern World, Its Meaning and Its Legacy.
The below is the original Persian text. There is no Assyrian King in the text. Kurdish nationalists manipulated Sharafnama to built this animosity among the common Kurds towards the Assyrians, the legal owners of lands in northern Iraq.
Read also my article:
https://t.co/OnBPAQgCQf
Los Angeles Democrats caught in a massive Gerrymandering Scandal in California
LA Democrats held a private meeting that was secretly recorded
They discussed a ‘once-a-decade redistricting process’ for LA City Council districts and discussed strategies to redraw district lines to expand Latino political power. They wanted to eliminate white and black people’s voting power
Every person involved was a Democrat
- Nury Martinez, The -City Council President
- Gil Cedillo, Councilmember
- Kevin de León, Councilmember
- Ron Herrera, President of the LA County Federation of Labor
They secret recording captured them
- Mocking White Councilmember Mike Bonin’s young Black adopted son
- Made remarks about Black Angelenos, Jews, Armenians and various groups
You know Democrats are doing this nationwide, they’ve gerrymandered America this exact way with secret meetings
🚨BREAKING: California Gov. Gavin Newsom, who has built his national profile around accusing the Trump administration of corruption, has directed more than $340 million in "behested payments" to political allies and nonprofits, according to @JustTheNews.
The disclosures come as Newsom faces a federal Justice Department investigation that, per the Sacramento Bee, was opened in 2022 under President Biden and is focused on his wife's taxes and the couple's nonprofit ties.
But the split of the peshmerga is not only between the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK). Almost every OFFICIAL political and religious group in the Kurdish region has its own peshmerga. The Kurdistan Islamic Party, for example, has its own peshmerga as well.
@FredAprim@avesta_roj2 You are probably right, they do look European, for some reason those accounts would like to show that Kurdish woman have European facial appearance!
@avesta_roj2 The Kurdish peshmerga allowed ISIS into Shingal (Sinjar) in 2014 as you disarmed the Yezidis and then evacuated without firing a bullet as ISIS began their invasion. The peshmerga did the same in Nineveh Plain with the Assyrian Christians. Stop misleading the readers.
@HayAghchig Many of these massacres and genocide had the Kurds as the perpetrators. The Kurds were part of the massacres against the Assyrians, Yezidis and Armenians.