@TBOSurito @beowulf_gay @notthatry @AntiHeliRides @prageru First step act was a tiny step in the right direction, HBCU funding was good but hardly an amazing achievement, unemployment had nothing to do with Trump, nor did poverty. The platinum plan didn't even happen.
@TBOSurito@JDW_720@michaeljknowles I shouldn't have even engaged with your definition because any English speaker can tell that that's not the definition of proxy we're using. The def we're using is closer to the statistics definition, which specifies two things with a close correlation.
@TBOSurito@JDW_720@michaeljknowles A much better definition (since we're talking about stats) is the statistical definition. The important aspect is where it says proxies have strong correlations with each other. Not that they're the same thing.
@TBOSurito But in this case, the NC map was clearly based on race rather than party the first time it was struck down. They used the party claim to obfuscate. You know because the second map was expressly based on party and it looked much different and was somehow found acceptable
@TBOSurito And you just believe the GOP when they say they were making a map based on party, KNOWING that they could defend themselves and just say it was based on party.
Also, how can you support the idea that it's okay to gerrymander by party?
@TBOSurito@JDW_720@michaeljknowles My nigga, you are so dense. Being proxies do not mean two things are the same thing. It means they're highly correlated. Living in America is a good proxy for speaking English, but it does not mean that living in America and speaking English are the same thing.
@TBOSurito@JDW_720@michaeljknowles I LITERALLY NEVER SAID RACE AND PARTY ARE THE SAME THING
Two things being proxies does NOT make them the same thing and I never said otherwise! Christ on the cross, man!
@TBOSurito@JDW_720@michaeljknowles It literally is a fact IN THAT MOMENT. Until it's no longer true, it's a fact. If I jump up in the air, it is a FACT that I was not touching the ground until I land again. It's not a fact once I land, but it is a fact when I am still in the air.
@TBOSurito@JDW_720@michaeljknowles I NEVER CLAIMED PARTY=RACE.
The fact that they are so strongly correlated does NOT mean they are the same thing, nor did I ever claim that. One being a proxy of the other does not make them the same thing. They aren't the same thing.
@TBOSurito@JDW_720@michaeljknowles Robert Byrd actually changed quite a bit throughout his term and was very quickly outta the klan. Even the NAACP approved of his later record.
Meanwhile, Duke is still in favor of all his KKK views...
@TBOSurito@JDW_720@michaeljknowles And the court said that because IN THIS MOMENT the two factors are so strongly overlapping. Not that all black people are Dems "for no reason" or that party and race are the same thing. Because IN THIS CASE, it is a FACT that the two overlap a ton. How is this so hard?
@TBOSurito@JDW_720@michaeljknowles Don't let the party names fool you. Democrats used to be the party of states' rights, small government, etc. Republicans used to be strong federal government, high immigration. Look up platforms from the late 1800s if you don't believe me. Both parties shifted a ton since then.