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@Kharmaeleon_@AromokalaRashid De Brunye never took the second most shots per 90 in the entire league eclipsing all strikers except Mbappe. Well, never heard anyone say "the edge KDB has is, he's a creator and a scorer" then the moment he couldn't score they say "oh, he is now focusing on creating".
@Kharmaeleon_@AromokalaRashid Also when Messi was a CF from 2009 - 2013, Ronaldo outscored him as a winger in 2011 and 2013. So what do you mean by what happened?
"Handicapped himself as a scorer" but couldn't handicap himself from taking the most shots on his team with majority coming from inside the box?
@Kharmaeleon_@AromokalaRashid Doubling as a playmaker while taken the most shots on the team and commanding every play to begin and end through you is different from what CR did as a traditional winger. It's lame you want to act like a teenager playing a secondary role is the same as Messi in his prime lol
@Kharmaeleon_@AromokalaRashid Then using playmaker as an excuse for Messi as PSG is even more stupid considering he was taking the 2nd most shots per 90. And when CR left he didn't go bang below his level, like Messi did in an even much weaker league
@CuleConfessions@100of35_ Yes, he was. People regarded him as a GOAT as at 2015, before the 3peat. All the 3peat did was strengthen that stance not magically invent a stance that wasn't there. What I stated up there was just from 2012 - 2014, I haven't included anything prior 2012 yet
@Kharmaeleon_@AromokalaRashid How is it then fair to CR when he is going against a guy who spent 17/23 years+at least 2 years of youth level football at the same club?
@Kharmaeleon_@AromokalaRashid But it was fair for you to mention "when they played in La Liga" where Messi spent his whole youth and played at least 4 szns B4 CR joined?
Again, no matter how long you wait, it won't change the fact that CR spent at least the first 4 years playing a traditional winger
@Kharmaeleon_@AromokalaRashid We consider the fact that other playmakers "Neymar" who was injured was scoring at a better rate with less shots as well in the same team, so that's not an excuse. We apply the same to CR who was scoring better than an experienced Giggs in the same role from 03/04 - 05/06.
@Kharmaeleon_@AromokalaRashid We consider the fact that he was already an established goalscorer, who went and couldn't replicate his goalscoring not even by the slightest. Saudi doesn't have more game than MLS lol. They both play 34 games in the league. Take away those, CR still has more int'l goals.
@Kharmaeleon_@AromokalaRashid Oh really? If you simply want to look at who scored more goals, then why the hell are we having this convo when Ronaldo literally has the most goals in football history? π
@3xxx7_@tobyasky How does that address the fact that he took more shots per 90 in Ligue 1 than all strikers except Mbappe yet you act like he wasn't trying to score?
@arendsef0@jayjayr01 Really? So which greats were feeding him to basically drag him into scoring?
Also it's so dumb when you act like the players you names after were playing for Cardiff City. Mental π
@jayjayr01 Notice how the common thing in this graphic is he was still facing those teams while playing for Barcelona. I'm sure France were lucky Messi didn't play there as well ππ
@LeoBayern10 Which part of it is false? Indeed, Messi has never won any National team tournament top scorer outright. And only had 1 where he was joint top scorer as well. Top scorer award is given for goals, not for "NPG" lol.
@Kharmaeleon_@AromokalaRashid What do you mean by "Messi's bad years"? And why do you think waiting till they both retire or using up till when Ronaldo was 39 makes it any different when you still ignore the fact that both had very different roles at the beginning of their careers? A winger in a 442 vrs 433
@messicule2006@UtdAlienn Playing against EPL teams in UCL while at Barca doesn't change the fact that Messi only had a great career in La Liga. For some reason, you can't mention Ligue 1,where he played 2 full seasons with PSG