@mc203t@hekwoys Btw i think it was technically (nerd emoji) pitch accent. So instead of every syllable has a meaningful tone (like chinese languages), every word has a tone (like japanese)
@startkyIeorton This is how i felt seeing people fight over discord server roles. Why would anyone gaf about niche count or duke or archduke or landgrave or spatharios or protospatharios rank. Oh i get it now
@Chatterbox4710@aristomarinetti the quote is probably fake ye, but nationalism is not tied to modern democracy. the romaioi of rhomania already have the features of a nation-state: horizontal community with an imagined common language, descent, culture, territory, religion, etc with a stake in their government.
@Chatterbox4710@aristomarinetti *athens' political community was not small enough to be walkable, nor for a public figure to be known by all. I think plato's athens is much closer to a nation than we think. The idea that the 1800s was the origin of nationalism is increasingly not accepted by scholars (2/2).
@Chatterbox4710@aristomarinetti Plato's athens had a citizenbase bigger than the city though, it extended all the way thru attica (synoikismos). A 100 years before plato, Aristides quite famously helped a man who didn't recognize him write an ostrakon for him, indicating that athens was not small enough to (1/2
@queeraye@kisstheblade_ they actually did do it regularly to intersex kids cuz they didnt consider them people. in livy there's several mentions of throwing them off ships into the sea in a ritual. livy never addresses this as human sacrifice like he did with the gaulgreek burials bc he didnt consider
@MauledByGigi@TheFatuiD0ctor@queeraye@kisstheblade_ Livy makes it clear this wasn't regular exposure-death of an unwanted or deformed kid; the state religion got involved to give it a special killing (human sacrifice). This is from Livy, Roman History, 27.37 (4/4).
@MauledByGigi@TheFatuiD0ctor@queeraye@kisstheblade_ "carried him out into the open sea, and submerged him there. By another decree of the pontiffs, three choirs of nine girls each had to go around the city singing a hymn to the gods. Livy, Roman History, 27, 37 (207 B.C.)" (3/?)