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[rosie @bobaroses]

@dykellisto @mylenefarter are you dense.

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@dykellisto @mylenefarter i care about misogyny. what im upset with is using misogyny to rewrite what gay men are saying, and push a narrative that is not true or taken without context. people think gay men are claiming that they ever said that they can’t be misogynistic, that is not what happened.

[rosie @bobaroses]

@dykellisto @mylenefarter this is how vilifying gay men starts by putting them all in the same group as the trolls who rage bait and taking away support. outside the internet it’s a known fact that women feel safest at gay bars bc gay men are majority not like that.

[rosie @bobaroses]

@dykellisto @mylenefarter that obviously isn’t okay. just like how it isn’t okay that there are countless of women calling them slurs and being vile to them, like misinterpreting what they’re saying to silence them, which is how the discourse started.

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@hotglassofskank @mylenefarter @dykellisto and i can be upset with people using misogyny to shield their homophobia. this started with gay men speaking up about how ‘gay men are still men’ can be weaponized to shield homophobia, and people took it as then saying they can’t ever be misogynistic. no one said that.

[rosie @bobaroses]

@dykellisto @mylenefarter so then take gay and men out of the sentence. say people are misogynistic. mind you this started with gay men speaking up about ‘gay men are still men’ can be weaponized to shield homophobia, and people took it as then saying they can’t ever be misogynistic. no one said that.

[rosie @bobaroses]

@fernydyke @mylenefarter @dykellisto yes, you can speak up about gay men’s misogyny, but when thousands of women start doing it acting like they’re saying they can’t at ALL be misogynistic, when they’re actually pointing out homophobia, then it’s not calling out misogyny, it’s silencing gay men.

[rosie @bobaroses]

@fernydyke @mylenefarter @dykellisto that is not what i said. i’m saying this discourse started with gay men speaking up about how ‘gay men are still men’ can quickly be weaponized to shield homophobia, and people purposely misinterpreted their words as saying they can’t be misogynistic. no one said that.

[rosie @bobaroses]

@angstywhoure you’re missing the point. cis women have more resources is what they’re trying to say, which they do. trans women have smaller communities, different facial features and body structures which makes it difficult to find proper resources. they’re speaking figuratively.

[rosie @bobaroses]

@mylenefarter @dykellisto gay men can be misogynistic but if that’s your takeaway then it seems like you’re more focused on shutting gay men up than advocating for women. all men are misogynistic but it’s gay men you’re upset with for pointing out how it can be weaponized against them to be homophobic.

[rosie @bobaroses]

@mylenefarter @dykellisto what actually happened

gay men: the ‘gay men are still men’ talking point can quickly turn homophonic
women: so gay men can’t be misogynistic? 🙄🙄how could you say that omg 🙄🙄 why are you so upset when we point that out 🙄🙄

[lucas! ♡ @varkanemo]

gay men can 100% be misogynistic, but most ppl only bring this conversation up because they hate gay men, not bcuz they wanna advocate for women. simple as that

[☽ Mina_duⵣ🌸🇩🇿(⚢) @kaoru_san22]

Tbh I assumed it was to say "all men grow up and are conditioned on misogyny so they can all perpetuate it" which is true but I'm noticing ppl are using it to act like gay men are uniquely "more" misogynistic than other men

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@sniffmenot this current discourse began with gay men feeling like the ‘gay men are still men’ talking point can quickly be turned into a shield to cover homophobia, and women took it as them saying that they can’t be misogynistic.

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@superrchamchii i think it’s bc a lot of times ppl use it as an excuse to be homophobic. all men are misogynistic but it’s the gay ones you’re worried about.

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@Sheepdemon @tarotwithsyd sexual predators do not deserve a platform, it’s not up to the audience to forgive him and bury his past for him because he’s personally moved on, and those okay with his past are questionable themselves.

[The Woke Mob (Psycho 100) 🩷 🇵🇸 |🔮🎮 @MAGICALGAYMERS]

Women in that past literally had their brains mutilated against their wills if their emotions were too inconvenient for the men society had decided they belonged to

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the thing abt “men aren’t allowed to cry” is that women aren’t really allowed to either. women get mocked and berated for crying, and their momentary tears are used to justify their exclusion from “serious” workplaces, environments and activities

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@BlackCognition0 @bloop_tart @jinxystinkymaw it’s also theorized that’s why a lot of men think you’re flirting when you’re just being polite, they believe that because they wouldn’t do the same to someone they weren’t attracted to. not saying it’s always this but i feel like it’s the case sometimes.

[rosie @bobaroses]

@BlackCognition0 @bloop_tart @jinxystinkymaw like yeah, women do it to, but they’re also more likely to see more men in a purely platonic light, leading to this original discourse/frustration in the first place. a lot of men aren’t capable of interacting normally with women who they simply aren’t attracted to.