@othmaanX@cozyangel58@GodLogic_GL You, uthman, and this top scholar have given us three different answers in a topic so obvious. Seems like you guys don’t have any real answer for this
@othmaanX@cozyangel58@GodLogic_GL And about the Joseph thing. I didn’t see the source but either Al-aziz in that context was qualified or you found a real time act of shirk in context.
@othmaanX@cozyangel58@GodLogic_GL I mean if you want to go against what Muhammad and scholars say then go ahead dude💀 Uthman also said Jesus unqualified it when he called himself the first and the last. So do you disagree with Uthman with that point as well?
@othmaanX@cozyangel58@GodLogic_GL Also Uthman lied and gave qualified obvious answers so which the point couldn’t be brought to the table during the debate. This is what this real Islamic scholar had to say about ANY of the names of Allah being used in an unqualified matter
@othmaanX@cozyangel58@GodLogic_GL Listen man yall been at this for a while now. The truth is you cannot give the names of Allah to a creature at all Unqualified. This is how Muhammad caught someone using one of the names of Allah unqualified and changed his Name right after. “Authentic Hadith too btw”
@mamadusaku@GodLogic_GL No one asked about major or minor shirk
The question was can you be A Muslim and commit Shirk in the literal sense
Not Can you be a Muslim and commit Major or Minor Shirk
@othmaanX@GodLogic_GL The argument and the whole point of this was you didn’t understand the question and blundered between your own definitions and reasoning. The question wasn’t can you Accidentally tongue slip and commit shirk and be Muslim💀 YOU brought that up
@othmaanX@GodLogic_GL No one needs to but you did? So I can’t trust you to track or intellectually know the difference between shirk and kufr in your own religion. Nowhere in this definition do you see committing shirk is Accidentally or tounge slipping partners with Allah. Didn’t understand the topic