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[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@a_westgate @AngloVarangian Image 1: schitzo nonsense
Image 2: Basic Biblical study
Image 3: Eschatological schitzo nonsense

Is ai just an average rapture believer Protestant?

[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@Craig_Truglia I don’t even know how you stumbled into thinking it was the ascension from reading the English.

[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@BrotherAugusti2 Congrats. I completed the St. Stephen’s program last year. A lot of the process was shockingly painful as well. It’s crazy how much pop-apologetics is taught there with little examination.

[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@SDostoyevs75029 @papism101 @AngloVarangian Do you have any idea of when Rome stop recognizing him as a saint?

[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@RxOnlyFL @Orthodoxy2019 You’ll have to initiate (twitter wont let me). But feel free to take your time doing so.

[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@RxOnlyFL @Orthodoxy2019 Would you mind if we moved the rest of this discussion to DMs? It’s a serious topic and it would be better to discuss it in a more focused manner. I’d also like to make sure I’m not misunderstanding you on a couple points.

[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@RxOnlyFL @Orthodoxy2019 This might be pedantic to mention; still, Origen is not recognized as a saint in the Orthodox Church. I do not think it is unreasonable to say that if a position is Orthodox that some recognized saints would voice it. Surely you can mention one for our consideration.

[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@RxOnlyFL @Orthodoxy2019 For the sake of the discussion, are there any saints which align with what you’ve stated about the passage? Certainly, we should consider the consensus of the Church, and I am willing to hear from a Saints on this.

[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@RxOnlyFL @Orthodoxy2019 You’re right. It is odd that there is no chance for repentance in the event, which is God’s goal for us. I have yet to see a Saint explain why this is the case, and I cannot think of reason why it’s missing.

[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@RxOnlyFL @Orthodoxy2019 1 Cor 11:30 indicates sickness, at the very least, which is also OT behavior. Rev 16 shows God release all sorts of punishments which cause death for people who refuse to repent. This is not an isolated event.

[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@RxOnlyFL @Orthodoxy2019 End. The couple did not approach God appropriately, and suffered presently for it. This echoes Christ parables of the wedding feast, the servant that beat his fellow servants, and the ten virgins. Judgement and consequences are part of the gospel teaching.

[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@RxOnlyFL @Orthodoxy2019 3. They could not claim to be united with God, while trying to reject Him. They suffered for their rejection at that time. St. Maximus the Confessor emphasizes that we have an experience of God in eternity based on our preparation to be with Him here.

[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@RxOnlyFL @Orthodoxy2019 2. The couple rejected the Holy Spirit, and tried to deceive Him. This is their Crime, not the holding back of the money. Christ points out that Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is unforgivable, and that seems to be the cause of the harsh punishment.

[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@RxOnlyFL @Orthodoxy2019 1. The issue at hand is that the punishment seems disproportionate and not in line with your understanding of incarnational theology. Something that is clearly stated by Scripture and the Fathers is that there is judgment and consiquence, immediate and eternal for rejecting God.

[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@RxOnlyFL @Orthodoxy2019 I just didn’t want to quote something without allowing you to read it. It makes these kinds of discussions unhelpful.

[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@RxOnlyFL @Orthodoxy2019 Here is blessed Theophylact for your convenience. St John’s Homily is easy to find online.

[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@RxOnlyFL @Orthodoxy2019 I also saw that St. Ambrose of Milan and Blessed a Theophylact of Ohrid bring about the same sentiment as St. John. They seem to interpret the punishment as just, for the benefit of the whole community. How could the saints have such a wrong theological reading of these events?

[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@RxOnlyFL @Orthodoxy2019 If this is true then why does St. John Chrysostom describe it as a miracle coming from St. Peter and that it was a punishment to show that the Lord executes His judgements? It’s in Homily 12. That would seem like at least a driver. Could they do miracles without God?

[AChristian @boredandinhere]

@RxOnlyFL @Orthodoxy2019 Okay. Then can you help me, and tell me what caused them to drop dead?