Ben P

[Ben P @bp_uga]

@ZaidJilani I know plenty of "working people." I doubt any of them have SS tattoos on their chests, find joy in watching videos of US soliders getting shot, or masturbate in porta potties. In fact, I think think most "working people" would be horrified to be viewed that way by a journalist

[Ben P @bp_uga]

@RebeccaKKatz Yeah, how dare anyone betray a wife's trust, right?

[Ben P @bp_uga]

@dilanesper You can pretend all that away, but you shouldn't then accuse others of not thinking clearly about the moral issues. For many thinkers, even if not for you, the morality of affairs goes a bit further than "sex is fun" and "people should have it as frequently as they want"

[Ben P @bp_uga]

@dilanesper And again, affairs often ALSO involve other lies and often ALSO involve knowingly doing things that will be deeply hurtful to loved ones. That's immoral in a teleological, or deontological, or virtue-ethical analysis.

[Ben P @bp_uga]

@dilanesper Most people understand the "forsaking all others" bit of the wedding vow to be a vow of sexual fidelity. But even if you disagree, there's still the lying, and the engaging in conduct that's deeply hurtful to the spouse.

[Ben P @bp_uga]

@dilanesper A lot of affairs involve breaking an oath, lying, and conduct that the spouse (often the most important person in the affair-haver's life) would find deeply hurtful. Whatever the moral status of the actual sex, all that would qualify as immoral under any system of morality.

[Ben P @bp_uga]

@ZaidJilani Okay, but also caused the deaths of 20 or so homeless people.

[Ben P @bp_uga]

@dilanesper I went to the college football national championship game at Mercedes Benz Stadium several years back. Kendrick Lamar was the nominal halftime entertainment . . . and he did the show from a mile outside the stadium in Centennial Olympic Park.

[Ben P @bp_uga]

@politicalmath Women are often more sexually selective due to the relatively higher reproductive "cost" of oocytes relative to sperm. But some men treat sperm as having the same reproductive cost as eggs.

This is known as the Spunk Cost Fallacy.

[Ben P @bp_uga]

@ZaidJilani In fairness, he's probably more upset that you suggested ICE deport his wife.

[Ben P @bp_uga]

@dilanesper "Liberals believe that Israel is committing genocide, so why aren't Congressional Democrats demanding that we arrest Netanyahu and sever ties? Liberals are liars!" I have no doubt you that you can see the logical flaw in that proposition. Now apply it to your "belivers" stuff.

[Ben P @bp_uga]

@dilanesper Need evidence of that? Well, how about the fact that few if any denominations actually apply that verse in the manner that you think they should--as you yourself concede!

[Ben P @bp_uga]

@dilanesper You say "basically nobody accepts" that quote. That's the point! People who think seriously about a God-centered ethics aren't usually going around applying literal interpretation to lines of scripture.

[Ben P @bp_uga]

@dilanesper No, what you have is a single sentence that Jesus was purported to have spoken in Aramaic, written down in Greek 5 or 6 decades after he died, and then translated a whole bunch of times to get to the version you quote.

[Ben P @bp_uga]

@dilanesper @aGuyOnMyPhone Okay. Find a non-Schizophrenic person who claims that God conveys truth in a manner similar to "human activity," and I'll agree that person is a liar. You should consider that maybe, just maybe, you're persistently misunderstanding a whole lot of people's claims about what God is

[Ben P @bp_uga]

@dilanesper @aGuyOnMyPhone Interesting that you're so convinced that all these religious ethicists are lying, when it's also possible that you're misunderstanding them. I think what many would say is that God does give us specific answers, but not in a way that you're willing or capable of recognizing

[Ben P @bp_uga]

@dilanesper @aGuyOnMyPhone Or else millions of monks and ascetics and various o ther people of faith have spent centuries lying to you.

[Ben P @bp_uga]

@dilanesper @aGuyOnMyPhone "Accessible" is doing a lot of mis-work in this strawman. I suspect the way more religious people across many faiths would characterize it is, by living the right kind of life and maybe following certain practices, one can know God, which includes knowing morality.