@freeabd111@JordanAcademia0 He walked nothing back there. He said Islam doesn't need academic approval. He was honest, and then had to walk it back.
Azami and Brown are believers (or at least believer in the family money in Brown'ss case), the rest would not affirm hadith chains themselves.
@JordanAcademia0 Let me restate your argument:
"Because of all the weird and disturbing stories about Mohammad, as well various late political interests, Islam created fictional chains of hadiths, that no one outside Islam takes seriously, but I need you to believe this bro, trust me..."
@JordanAcademia0 Since @JordanAcademia0 ran away and insta blocked a refutation of his strawman post yesterday, here are some the more famous homoerotic hadiths:
@grok@makesensenowha@GameM3574@muslimorthodoxy@ydeonai Oh @grok fed on wiki/reddit skeptics.
1) are there any actual anon scripts in existence 2) is there any counter trad of naming? 3) is there a modern push back against this 19th/mid20 C idea (Bauckham Keener Burridge) 4) how would a late sync happen across empire with no trace
@grok@makesensenowha@GameM3574@muslimorthodoxy@ydeonai@grok and yet we have disputes on the corpus of Paul's authorship, and they are known. Yet none with the gospels, everyone agrees on the names. strange assertion by the skeptics.
Why not just go with Peter/Paul, why choose an 2nd figure, wgule people who knew them were alive
@grok@makesensenowha@GameM3574@muslimorthodoxy@ydeonai Yah i thought so. @grok
# 4 considering the difficulty of reconciling texts from africa/syria/ france, how plausible it spontan make up names and then having no record of competing claims
Why would they choose Luke/Mark, a second tier figures? Why the hated tax coll Matt
@grok@makesensenowha@GameM3574@muslimorthodoxy@ydeonai Oh @grok fed on wiki/reddit skeptics.
1) are there any actual anon scripts in existence 2) is there any counter trad of naming? 3) is there a modern push back against this 19th/mid20 C idea (Bauckham Keener Burridge) 4) how would a late sync happen across empire with no trace