Warner Losh

FreeBSD hacker

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@nixcraft printenv PWD

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@nixcraft FORTRAN baby!

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@bexcran @JoeSpeeds @joshu @geerlingguy @AmpereComputing @ASROCKRACK Not even a vague inkling of an idea

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@desdotdev Takk.

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@desdotdev Hvordan sier du "dafuq" på norsk?

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@allanjude @incin200 @DLangille Indeed I am, but if someone shows up with a solution before i get back to this work, that’s cool too

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Practiced my #bsdcan talk tonight before hading over to the hacker lounge. My talk isn't until Saturday, so I'll get another chance to practice tomorrow.

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@csmallllll I never knew the bar for decent behavior was so low...

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@freebsdfrau This also looks like the picks in an ornate walnut cracking set my folks owned years and years ago...

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@brettglass @d_feldman Also, in the case cited, there was a license that specifically prohibited reverse engineering and Trade Secret invocations. None of those apply to the GPL.

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@brettglass @d_feldman There is no basis in law for this position. The IP lawyers I talked to have all been very clear and unequivocal on this point. Copyright does not cover ideas, only a specific implementation of those ideas and even the only to a limited extent. Merely reading code does not taint.

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@brettglass @d_feldman Right. The programmer isn't tainted. The clean room stuff was to circumvent a license that prohibited it and a precaution in a new area of law. I read GPLcode all the time, no taint. I've received legal opinions from three lawyers in the last 20 years backing that up.

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@brettglass @d_feldman since the "know-how" can't be covered by the GPL because the idea is not protected by copyright (and so not covered by any license)... the GPL grant to copy is quite broad... it's unclear if llm creates a derived work or not... people want llm output to be covered by the GPL tho

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@brettglass @d_feldman Copyright law says the opposite: just because you read doesn't the idea is tainted. It's always about the implementation. The contaminated concept is rooted in trade secret law. It's unclear, though, if the GPL prevents copying necessary for use in llm training....

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@bsdbcr @linuxtage One week too late for me to swing by on my trip.... good luck!

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@bexcran Is it good?

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@bsdphk @cperciva It's a unique experience. If you are very lucky, you'll be able to remotely debug / remotely redeploy.... otherwise yikes... space is hard in unpredictable ways...

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@erikarn Price corrections after a big run up often happen as enthusiasm wanes and not enough new money enters the market.

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@bexcran Congratulations on your purchase of your parallel port CDROM. with care, it will outlast your current computer and eventually live in a box that will baffle future generations.

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@dothebart @yath0r @pb_double Thanks for any help you would have given :)