@irkiio ??? You’re showing more concern for defending the accused person’s intentions. All this talk about conscious/ unconscious abuse and moral liability than for acknowledging that a child may have been hurt, who’s now facing severe harassment
@irkiio Why does someone coming out of their abuse need to clarify the other person’s level of awareness and they have stated MULTIPLE timss they were TWELVE. You’re just putting burden on them to explain other person’s trauma, in a post about THEIR OWN EXPERIENCE AND ABUSE.
@irkiio Ok I think I can understand it now, but I still find it weird that someones come forward about alleged abuse and your response is “your abuser was abused too” it feels incredibly dismissive
@NATURALER3CTION “Your cuts are too shallow so you’re not valid” is one example I can think of that’s encouraging sh, that doesn’t seem abusive to you???
@irkiio@trachhea@histrionicdyke I don’t think you realize how the “groomers but it’s okay because they were groomed themself” ideology can hurt victims
@irkiio@trachhea@histrionicdyke Because the post is about op’s abuse, not anyone else’s. Someone comes out about their abuse and you go “oh but your abuser were also abused” it just seems weird to me
@irkiio@trachhea@histrionicdyke “they do not have the correct moral agency to be held liable” Do you hear yourself. You’re taking “they were harmed” into “they can’t be held responsible for harming anyone else”. Their trauma deserves compassion but it isn’t a blanket exemption from accountability
@irkiio@trachhea@histrionicdyke I’m not arguing about whether someone is evil all I’m saying is that their own trauma doesn’t erase their responsibility for hurting someone else
@irkiio@trachhea@sageiswideawake@histrionicdyke They did acknowledge it? They stated he was groomed under another person’s reply. Ppl who are abused deserves compassion for what happened to them I agree but that does not excuse their own actions if they were to ever abuse somebody else
@irkiio@sageiswideawake@histrionicdyke@trachhea Yeah I do think they should’ve clarified about the being encouraged into sh stuff and not be vague I apologize I can see where you’re coming from