The core of the infighting within the boycott isn't even about the hashtag, it's about the people going into other people's posts to police them and dictate rules because they can't accept that we're being firmer and more critical of a multibillion-dollar company, fabricating malicious narratives that we're trying to ruin China's international relations and force the game into EoS.
They are also claiming that filing complaints with consumer rights organizations is wrong because it might harm Infold, completely failing to see LADS as a paid service that must be held accountable when it fails to deliver on its obligations.
Right at the start of the boycott, many players requested refunds for the passes they bought in preparation for Valko, and Infold refused to issue them, forcing people to resort to chargebacks and lose their accounts over the company's false advertising. So you have no right to judge people who want their money back after being scammed.
And NONE of this has anything to do with OUR government, especially since not everyone lives in the fucking US.
When we talk about getting the government's attention, we are talking about the CHINESE government, should the CHINESE players decide to pursue that. Unlike the CDGs, our grievance is valid, true and rational. Things literally cannot get any worse, because they are already actively censoring the game, yet people act as if we aren't already going through that exact nightmare right now. Censorship is already there!
The absolute worst-case scenarios that we have left are either a forced apology from Infold or a global EoS, and frankly, EoS doesn't even make business sense for them right now. Nobody from the global fandom is going to meddle in their politics without understanding it, so stop with this distorted narrative.
ANY hashtag that damages Infold's reputation and makes them fear government intervention while not recurring to lies is valid. If this tag didn't work, find another one that gets results, one that keeps them on high alert and creates urgency for them to respond before shit hits the fan. What is NOT valid is this toxic passivity and a chronic need to do charity work while diverting focus from our goal. We aren't here to be nice, we are here fighting for something that was our right as consumers: Valko and all his content.
'Don't attack the antis,' they said while fighting and oppressing people within their own movement.
So whether you want to be more aggressive in your criticism or just post about how we donated XYZ to charity while tagging Infold, it doesn't matter.
Just don't be an asshole who goes around harassing others in the movement to suppress their dissatisfaction, anger, and disappointment.
#BringValkoBack #BringBackValko #ValkoisLoved #Valkois6thLi
We are getting divided and this is sad. It isn't supposed to happen. I am also questioning my own thought process but I am tired. I can't reach to any solid conclusion at this point. I hope everyone will be in this together once again. The rest depends on Infold.
#NoValkoNoMoney
My 2 cents: we shouldn't be fighting each other but let people vent out their frustration however they want. A multi-million company is not gonna shut down bc we're trending a # in an app that's banned in their country. #NoValkoNoMoney#BringValkoBack#LadsIs6
@Diamondsteel69 Thank you. I was losing hope and had started to question myself and my own anger from the betrayal, after reading many post about how #PapergamesRuinsCNgaming is bad and suspicious. Many are fearing these pressure filled words will do more bad than good.
@J05Sab Thread again. And this is what that infuriated me the most because how long are we going to keep hoping and feeling anxious? Is it our fault that they are getting called out now? They chose silence, so they are facing the consequences of their actions. As simple as that.
@J05Sab I really don't care about the rumors. All I know Caleb's banner going to take almost two weeks, if they release Rafayel next, it's gonna take two weeks and the last week will be Zayne's birthday banner. There is no place for Valko this month. They are gonna make us hang by-
Thank you so much for speaking out so clearly @OhatsukiArt ! This is NOT about rumors or what someone else has said. This has now clearly come to our self-respect and worth. Our emotional labor, trust and love for the game have been repayed with silence and disrespect- a fact.
Girl, I'm sorry, but this is LITERALLY the path we should have taken from the very beginning. This became a geopolitical issue the moment LADS was approved as part of the Chinese cultural expansion program, tasked with integrating Chinese culture with the international market.
They literally received government funding to build positive international relations on behalf of the Chinese government to boost their soft power. Instead, Infold used public money to reject and mistreat their foreign consumers, painting a picture that Chinese games only care about their domestic economy and treat the external market like cash cows. It is no longer just about getting revenge on Infold, itβs about showing that the international market isn't a circus and that we have policies to protect our rights.
If you still haven't realized that the ABSOLUTE WORST-CASE CONSEQUENCE we will face is the end of service for this cursed game, serving as an example so other companies don't repeat this, I honestly don't know what to tell you.
We are way past the point of caring about what happens to Infold and LADS because it is crystal clear that the company itself doesn't care and is walking alone toward its own destruction. The people using the rhetoric that we are being radical and contributing to an EoS are failing to see that the company is doing this ALL BY THEMSELVES.
Anyone with an ounce of self-respect doesn't care if this escalates to a governmental level anymore because we are betting it all now: all or nothing. You talk as if the game is going to be censored AS IF IT HASN'T ALREADY BEEN CENSORED BECAUSE OF THE ANTIS. The absolute most that can happen to it now is being shut down.
And frankly, anyone supporting this shift in tone for the boycott couldn't care less if LADS closes down or not, because everyone has lost interest in playing and is now fighting for their rights and their dignity that was disrespected.
Only those with a chronic, unhealthy dependency are terrified of Infold facing severe punishment because they fear they'll never play again. So thatβs an issue you need to resolve with yourselves before going around criticizing those who want to take more incisive action.
Lastly, stop spreading fear that a damn private company that mistreats its consumers is going to cause a war or geopolitical conflict. If the Chinese government sees this blowing up and staining their reputation, the first thing they will do is crush Infold like a cockroach to set an example before ever responding to international public opinion. Infold is not a state-owned enterprise, they were supposed to represent China, but instead, they are making their entire industry look like a circus.
This is already spilling over onto other companies, but it's Infold's actions that are dragging everything through the mud! The mere fact that Infold exists and continues to adopt these practices is worse than anything that could come from the government.
Anyway, you had 30 days to spread peace and love. We stood by you: sometimes being more radical, sometimes joining your actions, but don't be naive enough to just sit around waiting. Because if you keep sitting on your hands, you're going to die waiting!
#BringBackValko #PapergamesRuinsCNgaming #BringValkoBack #ValkoIsLoved #NoValkoNoMoney #LoveDeepspace
@charisma_coco73 To be honest, at this moment I don't want to understand where InFold is coming from. Why would I take that unnecessary labour? All I know that they ignored us, they disrespected us and the developers. Our fury and demands are justified reaction of their actions.
The exact fear we were focusing on, yet people keeps on misunderstanding that we are acting based on rumors. No, we aren't. We are acting based on the game's future and it players' future. So I will keep on pressuring @InfoldGames_ . Stop this horrible business.
#NoValkoNoMoney
Snagged this from someone sharing it in the official Discord via a Facebook group, so I don't have the link to give credit.
"A girl in a facebook group made a very significant analysis of the state of the game even without Valko. And after reading all of this, I am certain LADS won't last very long like they want to try to think
So honestly nothing happened, and if things keep staying this way, Infold would keep using people with fomo instead of giving us what we wanted. There was way more text she said but I cut it off to avoid overwhelm, it was also in spanish so i translated it into english for an easier read."
#BringBackValko #LADSIS6 #NoValkoNoMoney #SpeakUpInfold
@beyond_meatball It is good in a sense in my opinion. People can call our anger legitimate after seeing our good deeds at first before we adopted more confronting tactics.
I quit playing 2 Infold games because I had HORRIBLE experiences with both. Infinity Nikki bc of the surprised retcon update & Love and Deepspace bc of Valkoβs removal. False advertising. Poor management. Terrible PR. Stay away from this company bros #PapergamesRuinsCNgaming
@hygge1b Yes, I feel like they are rather money hungry and especially "reputation freak". Because I cannot comprehend why else they decided to change their entire course for a bunch of haters. They knew haters will leave no stone unturned in dragging their reputation through the mud.