@azucarcal@catalystcomett i know the op and she is exactly the kind of reader i've described, again you guys are projecting your grievances onto people who never said what you thought they said just to get mad at them lol.
everyone in this thread has me blocked so I can’t reply but … yeah you’re right lol. I can’t name my favorite ao3 author because I don’t have one… I don’t read fanfic for the authors. I read it for the characters. sorry if that makes me evil to you guys idrc
@azucarcal@samcentric this is why my initial response addressed mega-fandoms like the zionist doctor show. ppl in small fandoms absolutely develop relationships between readers/ writers. there are always different levels of engagement but to advocate mindless consumption as best practice is crazy work
@samcentric@azucarcal my argument is that this is an impoverished way to engage with art (even fanart) with demonstrable negative consequences for both the reader and the reading community. i think OP has probably overstated her case, bc as your close and intimate friend, i’m sure she’s read your fic.
@samcentric@azucarcal i am responding to the idea of a having no idea who writes the fic one reads and having no interest in finding out. again, i do not know or care about your friend. i’m so sorry if her feelings have been hurt but she’s irrelevant to the broader conversation about reading practice.
For me, having a baby was the beginning of the end of my marriage. My ex and I had set things up to be fairly trad. He made the money, and I planned to stay home with the children. I didn't, however, realize that his vision of that was actual-zero childcare, to the best of his ability. He spent most weekends watching TV in another room with the door closed, while I ran around to parks and playgrounds, etc. Eventually we had no shared life.
@jmrphy for @unherd recommends this. I am not so sure.
Nor am I totally unsure. I was a stay-at-home-mom, but also had fairly feminist expectations, and I thought that my ex *should* have walked in the door from work and started helping me make toddler-dinner. After all, we'd both worked all day, and his work was a lot more fun. More than that, I wanted someone to share the experience with ... him.
We also did have other, deeper problems. But mainly what happened is that I started resenting him and stopped caring about his wants and needs in the relationship (because he was a lazy-ass bum sitting there waiting for his adult-dinner, too). And I devoted my considerable powers to trying to force him to participate, which he did, but so resentfully in his own part that it just wasn't worth it. eventually I started arranging things to discourage his participation. I can think of summer mornings where I was scuttling around trying to get me and the kids out of the house before he woke up....
Also I tend to forget that for the first few years, I tried to treat him like the luxury-king-of-finance that he wanted to be, and *tried* to do it all myself without inconveniencing him, and I just wasn't able to pull that off, logistically or emotionally.
I think we were probably just doomed for other reasons, but, with great hindsight, my resentment and feminism didn't help us. And his view of what a father was supposed to do was pretty impoverished. It's possible that if both of us had moved a few clicks towards the other's position, we could have made it. Or if we'd even just done the things we were already doing without the resentment, perhaps we could have grown together into the job.
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@samcentric readers who value distinct authorial voices tend to value authorship higher than those who don’t. they will follow authors from fandom to fandom because they enjoy that author’s style/voice/themes. that’s the curiosity i’m referring to.
@samcentric now, that person could very well be fooled if the ai-generated work was promoted to be in the author’s style, but that’s not usually what happens. ai was trained on what has long been described as “ao3 house style” and therefore lack distinct authorial voice.
@samcentric i’d describe of it more as a failure of intellectual curiosity than of intelligence itself. an intelligent person operating in good-faith could be fooled by ai.
@nottheribbons@samcentric my “theory” as you call it is that people who are indifferent to authorship are at greater risk of consuming ai-produced fic than those aren’t, especially in mega-fandoms like HR where ai use is more common. the fact a popular HRwriter was using ai does not disprove my “theory”
@samcentric the presumption is that this type of person (this is a generalizing statement; i do not know or care about your friend in particular) would not recognize the ai authored works as ai.