@NunyaDanBiznez@Raggmuffx3@jeremyct@No_Mo_Diversity “If we freely decide then we have free will” nice tautology 😂 determinism is not fatalism but I wouldn’t expect someone who has obviously not familiarized themselves with the subjects to understand the difference. Read a few books then get back to me
@NunyaDanBiznez@Raggmuffx3@jeremyct@No_Mo_Diversity If “indeterminate=free will” then indeterministic radioactive decay has free will. Congrats, you’ve just given quantum events civil rights! Very progressive of you, dumbass
@NunyaDanBiznez@Raggmuffx3@jeremyct@No_Mo_Diversity Wrong again, buckaroo. You’ve invented a conclusion the argument doesn’t make. If an event is admittedly NOT under my control explain how its effect on my decision suddenly becomes MY control. Calling that gap free will isn’t an explanation, it’s a claim you need to prove
@NunyaDanBiznez@Raggmuffx3@jeremyct@No_Mo_Diversity I came up with the syllogism after analyzing old problems discussed by people like van Iwagen, Mele, Strawson, Schopenhauer, and the GOAT Hume. It’s a synthesis of different arguments each have made against free will
@NunyaDanBiznez@Raggmuffx3@jeremyct@No_Mo_Diversity They don’t acknowledge free will, they acknowledge indeterminism. You’re arguing those are the same and they’re not. If my choice results from a random event I don’t control then you’ve made my choice less determined rather than more controlled.
@NunyaDanBiznez@Raggmuffx3@jeremyct@No_Mo_Diversity You misread 3. It doesn’t say “prior conditions are indeterminate”, it says that IF prior conditions don’t determine the outcome then the outcome is indeterminate with respect to those conditions. Indeterminate just means “not determined”. There is no logical third option
@NunyaDanBiznez@Raggmuffx3@jeremyct@No_Mo_Diversity I’ll post the syllogism again since I think it’s my strongest argument that free will doesn’t exist. Your best chance is to critique the specific points, tho I don’t think you’ve demonstrated the ability to do so more than “that’s dumb”
@NunyaDanBiznez@Raggmuffx3@jeremyct@No_Mo_Diversity You keep saying “clearly you do” but I don’t think it’s clear and you aren’t making any hard arguments against what I’m positing. Simply saying “that’s silly, you do” isn’t a strong argument
@NunyaDanBiznez@Raggmuffx3@jeremyct@No_Mo_Diversity What I eat and don’t is restricted and influenced by what I have available in my region, what I have available in my kitchen, what my dietary restrictions are, what foods I have grown to desire over others, etc… When I eat is largely determined by my hunger which I don’t decide
@NunyaDanBiznez@Raggmuffx3@jeremyct@No_Mo_Diversity You’re arguing against multiple different straw men of my argument. You’re arguing against fatalism which I’m not proposing. I’m not arguing that humans don’t make decisions, we clearly do, I’m arguing the extent to which that decision is freely decided
@NunyaDanBiznez@Raggmuffx3@jeremyct@No_Mo_Diversity The problem of hard solipsism is still a problem until we learn more about the nature of consciousness. We are, in fact, biological machines. We do “decide” things, but that decision is not free. It is either determined or indeterminate, P∨ ¬P. Basic logic
@car_trump@wondermann5 Political Zionists believe that any criticism of Zionism is antisemitism because the entire project of the State of Israel has been to obscure the line between “Israeli” and “Jew”
@TenreiroDaniel You’re right. Someone that size they should at the very least use real grass, especially considering what’s going in with climate change
@ChiefTeef8@Chairman951@nazzobetweeting “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny.”
@NunyaDanBiznez@Raggmuffx3@jeremyct@No_Mo_Diversity I’m pescatarian so I wouldn’t order chicken. You are compelled by trillions upon trillions of interactions you’ve had within your specific environment, and outside forces that control what is available within your environment, to order the chicken.