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[Josh Howie @joshxhowie]

Trans toilet debate: “I’m more concerned a man will be raped by a man in a men’s toilet, than a man will rape a woman in a women’s toilet.

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I find this supremely funny. beliefs that are not rooted in facts are simply feelings.
Yes, yes, yes.

Someone believing they are woman whilst being male is definitely not rooted in facts and feelings simply cannot change how society functions haha.

[Veronika @SilentSkyZero]

The EHRC guidance is what you get when you protect bigoted beliefs. Instead of just saying, you are free to have these beliefs, the UK has gone down this road of actually protecting those beliefs.

This means that some random bigoted terf can believe a trans woman is dangerous or that she violates her dignity, and that means society has to warp around those beliefs.

The problem is, the trans woman also has her own dignity, so these things conflict.

Bigoted beliefs should never warp society around the person who holds them, because bigoted beliefs are not rooted in facts, they are simply feelings.

This same logic would mean a white woman who is scared of black women, or lesbian women has a belief they are dangerous, and now society has to warp around them to protect those beliefs.

You can see this in the EHRC guidance. It's twisting its self in knots because the law its self does not protect bigoted beliefs, but, due to political pressure, the EHRC is trying to muddy the waters to make it seem like it does.

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@TheTransTroll @KTransgirl @speakoutsister i am talking about my own opinion. Now law doesnt make a differentiation between op or non-op. so even transsexuals who have gone above and beyond got impacted (unfortunately in my opinion). but i assume you dont care?

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@TheTransTroll @KTransgirl @speakoutsister yes, i dont personally do it. now the law does. deal with it!

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@ContorSien1527 @speakoutsister oh really, i am at acton main line station now lol, where are you?

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@Complex0edipus @speakoutsister I am soo sorry. I hope you are healing. unfortunately, people dont get that now service providers also have responsibility to protect the customers.

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@ThomasJPinkCain @speakoutsister of course i cant tell who just had a feeling or who fully transitioned. if trans people did not try to bring this ridiculous self id shite, it wouldnt even become problem. but i realise you cant talk like an adult and too thick to understand. bye

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@ThomasJPinkCain @speakoutsister whatever man. if you go with percentages men they are mostly safe too but small percentage makes a big impact.

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@ThomasJPinkCain @speakoutsister you guys just dont get it. those who fully transitioned, I was in support of. those who just has a feeling, No!!!

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@ThomasJPinkCain @speakoutsister I very much care about what happens to women and girls. I used to care about transsexuals but they chose to not care about women and girls by accepting any men as women just because men feels like it. now they are in this position. yeah, they should have thought better, sorry

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@ThomasJPinkCain @speakoutsister projection much?

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@ThomasJPinkCain @speakoutsister dont worry, i got exactly and actually even more than what I personally want with this guidance. Not my problem when service providers who dont do their due diligence get punished (hopefully severely).

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@speakoutsister ahahahaha I didnt have so much fun lately 😂😂😂 keep coming

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@obsessafilma @speakoutsister nice to meet you fake name and fake picture 😅

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@speakoutsister I admitted defeat ? from the beginning you didnt understand what I am saying. they cant simply change the signs. they have to show why and how. one assault will put them liable if they dont do their homework. geez, it shouldn't be this hard to understand really.

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@speakoutsister and note in the quoted tweet assessment was not used for the same purpose. it was response to something completely different :)

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@speakoutsister keep talking about "toilets" only. this thing is much bigger but you can't comprehend it yet :) good luck with women's sport for example.
Also, if service providers can defend why and how I dont mind unisex facilities. they should make assessments though!

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@KTransgirl @speakoutsister sorry to big of a risk for women and girls. an assessment is not good enough..I am also sorry that in your attempt to include anyone which opens the way to man to claim being woman, you are putting yourself in this impossible position. dont tell us we didnt warn 🤷🏻‍♀️

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@KTransgirl @speakoutsister I wouldn't be okay with hrt only, i am sorry. then there would be excuse that they cant use hrt for medical reasons as well. noone with a penis is acceptable in the places where girls and women are vulnerable. very sorry if life doesnt work out for them but it is the nature.

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@JENBROOK8 @speakoutsister yes and if there was something service provider could have reasonably do against this but they didnt, the provider would be liable. that is the whole point.