Casey

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[Casey @Cemblem10]

@MooneyOwnsYou @jay_ab1 I imagine if he made a plea deal when he was first in jail, they would have settled for it.

Once they prepared the case and got to trial, there was no way prosecution would allow a plea deal with the evidence they had

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@LilBeanDip5012 @MajorMovezOnly @jay_ab1 Yeah possibly! It was clear from the off it wasn’t self defence and he was getting sent down for at least something.

I suppose you learn from your mistakes at some point down th line.

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@_colewillivms @jay_ab1 I’m not saying it’s a defence for self defence - as it defo wasn’t self defence obviously.

From a legal standpoint (I stress in the UK) I was saying it was vague for premeditation. By that I mean you could easily argue that you didn’t mean using the knife.

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@aces18031803 @jay_ab1 I know, I have been educated that! My mistake!

I can see why it’s murder within Texas law now :)

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@RedSixerTwitch @JerzSuccubus @jay_ab1 Just stating uk law, in the uk that would highly likely not be enough to be classed as premeditated

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@RedSixerTwitch @JerzSuccubus @jay_ab1 I just think in the uk, it would be guilty on 2 charges, manslaughter and possession of an off weapon.

I do understand why it was a murder count in Texas though!

Just highlights the differences in law around the world!

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@Deadframex @jay_ab1 Again, I’ve been educated on how Texas law differs from standard law over here in the uk. My mistake!

I agree, using Texas law, that murder was the correct finding by the jury!

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@alanar0sex @jay_ab1 Very confusing! In uk this would be manslaughter giving it was an impulsive act, albeit hideous

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@AloePlantation @jay_ab1 Yeah I’ve since been educated on Texas law and how it differs from uk law! My mistake!

On the plus side, it is a good teaching point for when I teach my students that it differs from country to country and even state to state

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@alanar0sex @jay_ab1 I have since been educated on Texas law, thank you!

I can see why it was a murder charge, I was just going on my knowledge of manslaughter v murder in the uk law

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@PNT3939 @jay_ab1 Yes I agree, I’ve been educated that Texas law is different and can understand why it was a murder charge they found him guilty of!

I agree, any person with a supposed 3.5gpa should’ve realised he should have pleaded downwards

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@KGibbs77118 @jay_ab1 Also the ‘touch me and watch what happens’ - I’m just going by UK law (which I know is different) - I’ve since been educated on Texas law and can see why it was a murder charge they found guilty

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@KGibbs77118 @mr_goat666 @jay_ab1 I know, I understand why he didn’t testify, he would have crucified himself on the stand

However, the only way to know what *he was possibly* thinking was for him to take the stand

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@LilBeanDip5012 @MajorMovezOnly @jay_ab1 I still can’t work out what their strategy was..

He needed to be sat down and told, he cannot win this case on self defence and that he needed to plea bargain

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@jchambers116 @jay_ab1 I agree, there was no case for self defence.

Completely disproportionate force used

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@T_Boneless @jay_ab1 In the uk, the difference between murder and manslaughter is the premeditation of it all, if they haven’t thought about the act before committing it - it’s manslaughter

Easy to forget this isn’t common practice across the water!

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@jchambers116 @jay_ab1 Not once have I said it was reasonable? Guilty as hell all day. Having the knife, for me, should’ve been a separate charge.

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@Tingledingle_73 @jay_ab1 I have been informed that under Texas law, premeditation is not required, just the act and knowing what harm will be caused during that act is required for murder charge.

Assumed it was the same everywhere! (Needing premeditation) my mistake!

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@T_Boneless @jay_ab1 My mistake, I assumed it would be the same everywhere.

Under Texas law, I can see how they’ve reached a murder charge.

[Casey @Cemblem10]

@MajorMovezOnly @jay_ab1 Never ever self defence, disproportionate force used.

I think he would’ve got 10 years on a plea