i'll write a bio if this takes off past 2 likes i don't know. hey guys. Guy who doesn't play about his blocks Ok here’s my bio: Hi. Zeal defenders rot PEACE
@CouchCactus68 Not sure what it’d take to convince you when the evidence is right in your face and she laid it out And her thought processes behind every exchange in her doc like we’re five years old but right on
@ShiwaChama genuinely curious, what aspects of their relationship points to it being good in any way to you? i think the very beginning of rens doc lays the grounds for how unhealthy their dynamic is, even if i were to crop out the bit of how he only wanted to objectify her upon reconnecting
@CouchCactus68 fawning Is The Reason and you are just choosing to ignore it. which is your right, sure, but you cannot get mad over any inconsistencies or her "lying" when you just straight up don't want to look at it. 🤷♂️ i don't know where else to go with this other than you have due research
@CouchCactus68 it absolutely does and you're just victim blaming entirely atp. victims respond to trauma differently and just because the examples you've seen do not fit into whatever mold you have in your head of what a victim should look like, does not mean it doesn't happen.
@TabbyIsCat he (+the entire pressure team) had already cut her off prior to this so at this point she was desperate to not lose him again, and i assume very thankful that he even wanted her in his life again (which she now realizes it was only to objectify her.)
@CouchCactus68 i'm aware also she's also stated since her doc that she's hypersexual which would HEAVILY factor into this as well but i'm not keeping up and just going off of what is stated in the doc
@CouchCactus68 you say "if thats the case" but i don't think you're actually considering what i'm saying or you just don't understand how bpd, fawning, and the way trauma can affect victims works because again, this is what fawning is. she is seeking his approval and looking to appease him
@CouchCactus68 sorry? what is this based on? that is quite literally what fawning does, and you aren't factoring in her bpd either. trying to trick yourself into believing it was good is much easier than the pain of coming to terms with being assaulted by someone you adore.
Zeal defenders are either
A) pressure fan that just wants to play the game
B) incel that knows nothing about consent and how trauma works
C) assaulter as well or worse
D) all above
Cause even if we take away the assault this man is STILL horrible yet you don’t talk abt it??????
@mintylite@ShiwaChama@vaxeiiii trauma also does take a long time to process, especially when it is from someone you view through rose tinted glasses that you refuse to believe would want to hurt you 🤷♂️
@ShiwaChama@vaxeiiii i've been in a situation where i have lied about being happy in a relationship with an ex to distract myself from the reality that i am Unhappy and my needs were not being met, so maybe i just have more grounds to empathize more. but i dont get whats hard to understand about this
@ShiwaChama@vaxeiiii because...thats what fawning is? it does make sense and you stay purposefully obtuse and refuse to empathize. she was most likely trying to fool herself into thinking it was better than it actually was to keep herself the gravity of the situation which was she was just assaulted.
@ShiwaChama@vaxeiiii she literally laid it out in her doc her fawn response and how due to her conditioning she felt losing him would be worse than dying and she at this point was willing to say anything to please him 😭 Dude