@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 Wow very personal responsibility boot strappy way of thinking, didn't have you down for a libertarian. If a child shoplifts, he's a thief for life? I'd argue it would be the fault of the adult psychologist who recommended the surgery and signed of on it.
@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 It's really not off the rails, this is what's happening. It's just when you mention it to the just be kind crew they bury their heads in the sand, kinda like what your doing.
@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 Have you never questioned why gender dysphoria is the only mental illness where the proposed treatment is an expensive irreversable surgery and not prolonged therapy to accept your body and who you are?
@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 Ok then, lobotomy isn't a threat to me I still oppose it strongly.
Why not? It's not a very intrusive surgery, not much risk to it and easily reversible. While getting phalloplasty has a 5% death rate and a 30% rate of contracting sepsis and is completely irreversible.
@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 Sorry so you think that children should be able to decide to have life altering drugs and surgery or not? If not it makes you transphobic. And currently a 're affirming' treatment is standard, your not allowed to question or oppose only affirm a child's self diagnosis.
@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 The Rwandan genocide wasn't a threat to me I still think that shouldn't of happened lol, just because an injustice isn't happening to you doesnt mean you can't oppose it. Genuine question Would you allow your child to get liposuction to cure anorexia?
@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 Gender dysphoria is literally a mental illness, the side effects consist of depression and suicide ideation. It's not a controversial statement to say they are sad lol. Also if you don't agree with Trans kids being medicated I'm sorry to say that makes youre a gatekeeper bigot.
@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 Ok but this child is being chemically castrated. Puberty blockers are the same drugs used to chemically castrate sexual predators. I don't agree with that and I don't think children can make informed life altering decisions like get face tattoos or render themselves infertile.
@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 Ok mate whatever you say π again with the speculation.
It could just be that I find the thought of a prepubescent boy understanding what it means to commit to being a woman for the rest of their life an absurd notion. I also don't agree with chemically castrating children.
@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 Child abuse? When have I claimed that? All I've said is clearly the mother made the child memorise and repeat that statement on TV, it's just weird mate. What would be child abuse would be giving puberty blockers or cross sex hormone therapy for a 12 year old boy.
@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 No what I'm doing is deducing that those are not the child's actual thoughts and the mother has media trained her child to make a specific statement, the only one who's made an assumption of the family is you. (It must be hard for them etc)
@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 It really doesn't, how I feel about the situation doesn't change the content of the video, again I have the weight of evidence on my side while you have, you know, pure speculation. If that video does not disturb or concern you, you should ask yourself why.
@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 Also not only is your argument not empirical in itself but it doesn't even have any basis, it's just your own speculation.
@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 It doesn't need to be empirical, it proves it beyond a reasonable doubt, most people would agree that your doubt that the mother did not prepare the answer is not reasonable. It becomes even less so when you admit the emotional detachment of the child is strange.
@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 Not really, the video supports my claim of those not being the child's real thoughts. An unbiased judge would admit that video into evidence and allow me to make the argument, they wouldn't however accept speculation with no supporting evidence, Which is the basis of ur argument.
@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 Almost a good counter argument, just no supporting evidence again, only speculation. If the only evidence was this video (which it currently is) you have no foundation to make that argument. You even agreed about the concern of the childs detachment from the situation.
@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 No mine is backed by evidence with the video, I'd bet on a jury agreeing with me that what is shown is not normal behaviour. I am only describing what is shown you would have to show the video doesn't give the whole story with supporting evidence, which you do not have.
@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 Also the difference in emotional response between mother and child is contrasting, the child seems unaffected and frankly uninterested in the entire affair while the mother weeps with sadness. It is jarring for a normal person to see.
@CyclicalSnek @KeinDing123 @DiogodaCruz12 There is, she is mouthing the child's statement word for word and giving positive reinforcement when the child does it correctly, Its insane it has to be spelled out to you. If your argument was made in a court it would be thrown out for speculation and lack of foundation.