the amount of transmascs ive seen die hard defending the transmisogynistic stupid furry bearded woman art because they "know gnc trans women" turn around and dismiss trans women in front of them telling them not to do that is making me want to blow my brains out, stfu and listen
@Thepastelbutch@Agavegator if nothing is laid out in text then i will assume because she has a woman's name and gender expression she's a woman. why is this a sticking point? lmao
@Thepastelbutch@Agavegator we arent talking about nonbinary people, we're talking about the trans women you are disregarding because you want to appear to be woker than me and not realising you're just being a transmisogynist and invalidating my lived experience as a trans woman
@Thepastelbutch@Agavegator no, you as someone who is not a trans woman needs to stop talking over trans women, gnc or not, they can advocate for themselves. this is not your space to argue in and this standpoint so many of you people is upsetting to the trans women involved in this discourse
@Thepastelbutch@Agavegator ok so just to get this into perspective, you are not a trans woman and yet you spent this entire thread arguing with a trans woman about how what she wants trans women to be represented as is wrong and she doesn't know enough about queer people, got it. you people are insane
@Thepastelbutch@Agavegator it genuinely baffles me that you think your voice over how trans women are depicted in illustrations matters more than the trans women who are clearly upset by it, you are engaging in transmisogyny
@Thepastelbutch@Agavegator im not trying to be mean to you but you really need to learn that the online queer community and real life trans women are two different things, both from a presentation and safety standpoint
@Thepastelbutch@Agavegator what the fuck kind of argument is this, if you hypothetical bearded trans woman came into my work i wouldn't treat her any differently? im saying i have never seen one in my 8 years of being involved in the irish queer community
@Thepastelbutch@Agavegator and herein lies the point, the art isnt depicting nonbinary trans women, it states "trans women", not transfemme people or nonbinary people, *trans women* who arent being listened to when we en mass tell you people not to depict us like this
@Thepastelbutch@Agavegator i spent my entire weekend ripping the engine out of a mazda miata with my friends including a lot of gnc trans women, some of which present incredibly butch, none of which feel comfortable presenting facial hair
@Thepastelbutch@Agavegator also if you think you as a transmasc person are not exempt from transmisogyny you need a reality check, you do not experience bigotry and safety issues stemming from a claim to womanhood alone, its important that you understand what that word means.