@GroupToStopHate@_siaubas_@ShellenbergerMD Ah yes, strangled the oil and gas industry so hard they doubled the profits in Q1 2022 compared to 2021, which was also posted record high profits compared to 2020. Lots of finger pointing on who's fault this all is, but money doesn't lie and shows who's actually winning.
@JoeBoyd@AndrewYang I think the best solution would be keep a 3rd party's platform small. Once you have positions on things like abortion, gun control, etc, you will never get a sizeable coalition going. But, a 3rd party could focus on specific issues like economics, college tuition, pollution, etc
@jtcyberfm@NewProgressUSA@FreeMars2020 You are talking about net difference, not total income. Or would you argue that if Medicare for All is enacted, people on Medicaid now has no healthcare because there's no difference for them?
@jtcyberfm@NewProgressUSA@FreeMars2020 Like I've pointed out time and time again, universal programs, like Medicare for All, do not HARM people on Medicaid. It might not be a NET positive, because they don't get 2 sets of healthcare. But it does allow them to get out of poverty and not LOSE healthcare.
@jtcyberfm@NewProgressUSA@FreeMars2020 I'm seeing that they don't get a NET increase of 1k. They are still getting 1k. I would also understand arguments saying that disabled people need more then 1k a month to survive, and would agree to higher potential income floor.
@jtcyberfm@FreeMars2020@NewProgressUSA You are the one perpetuating ideologies that have kept disabled people poor for generations. Forcing them into welfare systems that prohibits them from working or risk losing their livelihood.
@jtcyberfm@NewProgressUSA@FreeMars2020 Perhaps Medicare For All should have a system where everybody gets second class health care while disabled people get first class and the best doctors so that we can make sure they don't get "abused" by the system.
@jtcyberfm@NewProgressUSA@FreeMars2020 All I see is greed. UBI for you is not an income floor to make sure food, housing, essentials are taken care of for everybody. It's an extra pile of cash that lets you spend on luxury goods on top of the essentials provided by the current welfare system.
@jtcyberfm@NewProgressUSA@FreeMars2020 Not to mention you forget to take into account the increase taxes that would have to be implemented, which should always hit higher spenders and income earners more.
@jtcyberfm@NewProgressUSA@FreeMars2020 No. UBI would increase their income. Your argument is that it's not enough. A net gain is still a net gain, even if you think it's not as good comparatively to the gains other people get.
@jtcyberfm@NewProgressUSA@FreeMars2020 Goal of UBI would be to make sure people have money to buy food, housing, etc and other essentials. Maybe disabled people should deserve 3k a month then so they can also get a luxury car to not be abused by the system.
@jtcyberfm@NewProgressUSA@FreeMars2020 So do you think a valid proposal would be something like disabled people get 2k per month under UBI while normal people get 1k a month? What happens if the disabled person starts working? Do they lose the extra income? If health costs are covered, why do they need more?
@jtcyberfm@NewProgressUSA@FreeMars2020 Not to mention SSI is toxic in many respects, because it forces disabled people (at least the ones that aren't completely disabled) from perhaps doing side jobs to supplement their income because of fear of losing SSI. In other words, it keeps them poor.
@jtcyberfm@NewProgressUSA@FreeMars2020 They don't lose SSDI under his plan. They do lose SSI, but that's because UBI is meant to create an income floor for everybody. Arguing otherwise would be the equivalent of saying Sanders doesn't want to give people with Medicaid healthcare because he's for Medicare for All.