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[Blue @columbialy]

Nope. France had been involved the entire time Libya was on the back foot. Had France not been involved in protecting the nation it neocolonizes and impoverishes, the current Franco-Chad would be a thing of the past. Say again, Chadians won with Toyotas? What is it with pop history folks, such as yourself, being retarded?

[Blue @columbialy]

An Egyptian lecturing Libya on economics is wild when over 2 million Egyptians worked in Libya by 2009, over 30% of Egyptians abroad. Libya was employing your countrymen by the million. Remittances from Libya are the thing to thank for very meat on your shoulders.

And “Russian pound”? Get out of here. Libya only used its own Dinar as currency, which has been more valuable to equally as valuable as the USD. No “Russian pound,” which is not even a thing, needed.

[Blue @columbialy]

@CCCUnion1897 @KreamDexus “Lost to Chad,” sure buddy

[Blue @columbialy]

@vefromtheblock @KreamDexus Here are more years (not just 1980) where Libya’s is higher than the US. You’re welcome. Now do your own goddamn research before you spew garbage online. Thanks!

[Blue @columbialy]

Someone who doesn't understand the difference between Nominal vs PPP is calling me illiterate and intellectually dishonest lol. Anyway, you claimed that Libya never had a higher GDP per capita than the US, I proved you wrong by showing data (including from the IMF) illustrating that Libya did have a higher nominal per capita and a PPP per capita that dwarfed the US' for years.

[Blue @columbialy]

@vefromtheblock @KreamDexus The graph showed GDP pc purchasing power parity numbers, not nominal pc GDP . Libya outperformed the US for years, both in nominal and PPP figures (significantly more so in the latter).

[Blue @columbialy]

@vefromtheblock @KreamDexus Are you sure you’re not the one who’s actually mischaracterizing in your crusade against the so-called mischaracterization?

[Blue @columbialy]

@vefromtheblock @KreamDexus My source is the IMF data, and this is nominal per capita btw. The PPP numbers are a lot higher for Libya too btw

[Blue @columbialy]

@vefromtheblock @KreamDexus Gaddafi’s Libya smoked the US economically so hard that Reagan needed sanction it (and it still remained near the EU average lol)

[Blue @columbialy]

Calling Carthage and Cyrene “not North African” because their founders crossed the Mediterranean is a toddler-level understanding. North Africa is not somehow outside the Mediterranean world. It’s one of its shores. The sea was the highway easily linking coastal NA to the wider Mediterranean.

Why exactly are North Africans supposed to be more historically attached to societies hundreds or thousands of kilometers south across the Sahara than to the Mediterranean civilization they were physically embedded in? And no, a small number of settlers did not arrive, exterminate the locals Anglo-American style, and remain some permanently sealed foreign population.

[Blue @columbialy]

And if we’re playing this dimwit game of “who got conquered,” what about the Garamantes? They built an independent state in the Libyan Sahara outside the Roman Empire, with cities, trans-Saharan commerce and hundreds of kilometers of underground foggara irrigation works tapping fossil groundwater. Archaeologists describe them as the first major urbanized society established in a desert without a continuously flowing river. Even Libya’s literal desert interior was producing urban civilization and cutting-edge engineering while you’re desperately inflating peripheral kingdoms into peers of the Mediterranean world. You picked perhaps the single worst region imaginable to call historically backward 😭

[Blue @columbialy]

Is that seriously a question? Carthage, Numidia, Cyrene, the Garamantes, Leptis Magna, a Roman imperial dynasty out of Libya, the Idrisids, Almoravids, Almohads, Marinids, Hafsids, centuries of Mediterranean and trans-Saharan power, along with an array of scientific, explorers, and theological figures, etc. etc. Sudan and Ethiopia aren’t in the same universe as them.

[Blue @columbialy]

@finestlibyan Accepting is allowing. Don’t despair. As Goethe said, “merit and good fortune are closely united.”

[Blue @columbialy]

Yeah, I also think it’s weird and screams insecurity. I actually like to know this stuff, no matter the person’s race (just out of curiosity). This is why I ask a more specific “what’s your heritage?” rather than “where are you from?”, which I think should be fine but somehow isn’t.

[Blue @columbialy]

Thank you, Cirno. The fall of Libya was the opening of Pandora’s box on the world. You have put into words what I always knew as a Libyan. Know that many of us still exist in Libya. I hope that somehow, in some way, it’s not Libya that will be dead, but this bastard world instead. Libya once made a Gaddafi, there could be another. As Aristotle said, “Libya ever bears something new.”

[Blue @columbialy]

@ubuto23 @ZacharyDonnini @hasanthehun I don’t see the vision. But I can tell that whoever made it probably saw themselves in their own art

[Blue @columbialy]

@ubuto23 @ZacharyDonnini He looks Israeli to me. No need for a face reveal