@wangxianling@iminkain@Usahime_sama I never refused to acknowledge others efforts to a fandom wtf are you on about? And I never said that’s no deference between efforts to a fandom just that we shouldn’t see a fandom as an hierarchical system that puts people above others for their contributions to it. Wtf?
@iminkain You said I was saying heinous shit when I just was giving my opinion on the use of “freeloaders” to call out any active fandom member as stupid even if they are assholes. So I was mean so you could cry about smth I really did not smth you invented
@iminkain@Usahime_sama@wangxianling How I’m a being rude? Calling stupid the use of “freeloaders” to talk about fandom members when I gave my clear thoughts on how we shouldn’t talk about a fandom like an hierarchical system because that just goes against the spirt of a fandom? I didn’t call you stupid then
@iminkain@Usahime_sama@wangxianling It’s obvious u don’t want any kind of discourse,u just want to be and feel right, u complain ppl are being awful but u can’t be awful too and still cry about it like u don’t participate on the same circle of stupidly. NOW I’m being mean to u so can actually cry about smth i did
@Usahime_sama@wangxianling I understand the discourse because I did talk to this person a day ago, but I still think calling anyone on a fandom “freeloaders” it’s stupid even if those people are assholes. Ppl are mad right now, if they a rightfull or not it’s another thing, you can be right and act wrongly
@theoceanblooms I think this person was talking in relation to the discourse about downloading fics and putting them on drives, not really “what to do with their fics” in the sense how a story goes. But people who do that yeah they are fucking weird, go write your own get out of here.
@9r7g5h@tetelinos It could be, idk how is google protection from third parties AI scrapping tho I would presume it’s quite tight, but we can never know, big companies are fucking awful about securing users data
@Usahime_sama@wangxianling like an hierarchical system. No one it’s “higher or lower” on a fandom because of what they offer to it or don’t. That’s what I’m trying to say
@Usahime_sama@wangxianling I don’t know how much I can make clearer, that it’s impossible to freeload on a fandom, OP wants to call people who are entitled assholes that’s fine, calling someone a freeloader on a fandom just because u don’t like them it’s stupid, we shouldn’t talk about or see a fandom +
@Usahime_sama@wangxianling It’s why I said it’s stupid to call someone a “freeloader”. Because it’s almost impossible to be one, and it’s cruel to call lurkers that
@Usahime_sama@wangxianling The ppl who don’t interact at all in fandoms circles (even if they give views/hits) are lurkers but they are not visible, so they don’t bother anyone. OP is talking about active fandom members, who are assholes yes but still not “freeloaders”.
@Usahime_sama@wangxianling Being entitled to fanwork it’s not all right it’s actually fucked up of ppl, but doesn’t make ppl “freeloaders” when they are active members of fandoms who enter discourses on they own fandoms, just makes them fucking stupid. Calling ppl “freeloaders” on a fandom is also stupid.
@wangxianling on a fandom is stupid and I don’t think that person was actually talking about someone who don’t interact in a fandom, because its almost impossible just by seeing smth u are giving views/hits even if u don’t like/kudos, they are just calling freeloaders ppl they don’t agree with
@wangxianling are ppl who do analysis, craft theories and just have conversations about the OG work, they are not better or more important then anyone else because of what they do or don’t. A fandom shouldn’t be seen or talked about like an hierarchical community. Calling a freeloader someone+
@9r7g5h@tetelinos I can’t, you are right, but when they had unpublished drafts, that shows the data doesn’t come from drives that had downloaded fics straight from ao3, that kind and amount of data only comes from scrapping an website
@Coolcrying_2931@emyjaegerbmb like it’s insane. I know I went beyond the author/reader conversation but I think it’s an overall problem on fandoms. Ppl really just don’t try to empathize and understand others, it happens to them so they do it to others and so on. It’s getting rough
@Coolcrying_2931@emyjaegerbmb happen and impact authors, it happens and impact visibly active fandom members that are just trying to have a conversation about anything really, ppl misunderstand, morally reprehended and insult other people over normal fandom things like analyzing characters that they don’t +