@monkeyhouse2023@AGallagherAlly can you find a single example of a trans woman doing this? i'm not saying there aren't people with fetishes for crossdressing, but that's a different thing. trans women don't have to "wear" large fake boobs - they grow them on hrt due to estrogen/progesterone like any other woman
@PeTerFinch74@AGallagherAlly i don't think that you have ever actually met a trans person. i have met very few who actually play up a hyper normative female fashion sense. really, wearing any of those things has absolutely zero to do with the feelings of dysphoria over sexed characteristics in transsexuals
@unit_b0y@emoviolence3 i'm not saying that this person isn't transmasc. i'm just saying that there is no chance that they are perceived as such on a daily basis and there is no chance that they are subject to the treatment a person who was perceived as trans would be
@unit_b0y@emoviolence3 there is absolutely no way that this person who hasn't been on t, wears women's clothes, and has a haircut and general sense of grooming that is by no means within the realm of the average guy is being perceived as anything but cis by passerby. i'm sorry but that's just true.
@SparkySquared@KimbleeFucker@MinModulation the question here is ppl bringing the term "femboy" into transfem spaces. sure, if you want to id that way, i don't care. just know that it has absolutely nothing to do with transfemininity and i believe that bringing that being that term into such spaces does a good deal of harm
@KimbleeFucker@MinModulation okay but this whole convo is about the term femboy on trans spaces. i also don't think it should be associated with trans women in any way. obviously yes, people should be able to define themselves, but these things matter
@KimbleeFucker@MinModulation sure, and part of that is defining ourselves by our own terminology. as a transfem, i feel insulted that the word "femboy" as it is broadly used is in any way associated with my identity. "sissy," "trap," "crossdresser," etc are all recognized for what they are, but femboy isn't?
@ObamnaSoda__@MinModulation find me one person who identifies as a femboy irl and isn't treated like a freak over it. femboy is an inherently sexualized, cis centric, transmisogynistic term that is not viable as an identity label outside of terminally online internet circles.
@sugabootylicker@emoviolence3 just speaking based on my own experience as i'm tired of being demeaned and talked over by queer ppl who have cis passing privilege
@KimbleeFucker@MinModulation For most ppl femboy doesn't mean "guy who likes dressing fem," but rather brings to mind guys in amazon astolfo costumes gloating about how you were tricked into finding a guy hot and how that makes you gay. it inherently furthers prejudice against transfems
@KimbleeFucker@MinModulation tbh the fact that the term has been broadly used to mean "trans women in porn" or "internet fetishist crossdresser" means that the term is truly not viable as an id particularly irl & any trans guy who identifies as such is going to have a far harder time being accepted.
@unit_b0y@emoviolence3 being gnc is obviously not a source of privilege, but this requires one to be recognizably gnc at a glance. If you are cis passing, you obviously do not have to worry about others seeing you as trans when you leave the house.
@Azupport1@MinModulation "femboy" is not by any means the best term to describe a feminine guy. If you called someone irl a "femboy" you'd be looked at like you were an insane person. If you self identified as a femboy irl nobody would take you seriously and you'd be presumed to be a fetishist