many reasons, one of them being that the industry are not squeezing what is possible from these services, which means the only way to scale is to add more SWEs which are only 'x20' to scale the business to survive
but other companies are able to ship more as the agency an intelligent of agents is growin, their SWEs are more managers which are technical to the extent needed
What is the broader definition of SWE which is not captured in what agents are capable of right now, and is not captured in vague terms like 'quality', 'maintenance', 'taste' and such
I would love to hear that, btw almost 12yrs spent as SW architecture, and 5 as SWE - I would love to hear what is it that you are seeing exactly
That is correct, pepole are forgetting where models learned to code, yes from us... If you see slop, it's a mirror, this is how practically pepole code
However how to code right, you only teach a model once and you are done
Try teaching generations of programmers the same
my argument is that all code is slop. slop is simply a slur and not a real objective definition. everyone considers code they wrote good and what others wrote that they don’t understand slop
it’s not a useful term for a true discussion on the topic. I’d maybe ask you to define what you mean when you say slop
The challenge for Google post-Gemini 4 will be what they do with a good model. Anthropic & OpenAI show we are moving towards a single interface for many tasks with orchestrator agents. The Gemini 3 era was full of fragmented products for many markets. Won't work for what's next.
@mattpocockuk@kunchenguid The real question is if we have data supporting that human processes are transferable to agents giving that cost generating these tokens are built upon intuition and not evidence...?
@ryanthawks@XFreeze I use it to orchestrate other agents, but I do so on Orca.
I also taught the engineer bot to use it and just describe to grok build which models to orchestrate and always invoke it with /goal
It works like charm and I spare alot of grok bot tokens while token maxxing the rest