Question for Albertans:
If Alberta successfully seceded from Canada, what kind of government would you want to see?
1. British Commonwealth
A parliamentary system similar to what we know now, with responsible government, a Prime Minister, elected legislature, and constitutional traditions rooted in Westminster.
2. American-Style Republic
A written constitution with stronger separation of powers, an elected executive, elected legislature, elected senate, and a system designed to limit concentration of power.
3. Swiss-Style Democracy
A highly decentralized model with strong local control, frequent referendums, citizen initiatives, and more direct democracy built into the system.
4. Pardy’s Limited Government
Inspired by Bruce Pardy’s “flip the default” idea: government has no authority unless the people specifically grant it. Power starts with the citizen, not the state.
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On issue after issue, federalists just put their heads in the sand and deny Albertas ability to solve challenges with common sense.
Myth: “Federal lands can’t be divided or transfered”
Fact:
Outside of Alberta there are 43 more National Parks and National Park reserves. Canada’s national parks and reserves total about 343,377 km².
Alberta’s population is approx 12.2% of Canada, therefore in a fair, equitable, and peaceful exit Albertans should receive 12.2% of Canadian assets and liabilities.
For Federal lands such as National Parks, that works out to 41,892 km². Assuming Jason’s numbers are correct (*Wood Buffalo National Park also extends into the NWT so his math is off here too) there only remains 11,968 km² to discuss and negotiate (1.8% of Alberta).
As for Jason inferring that military installations are an issue because of federal land title, there are 27 major CFB’s across Canada, and countless more “Wings,” “Stations” (CFS), or “Support Bases.” Again, run the 12.2% for a fair, equitable, and peaceful exit with division of assets and liabilities, and the transfers of ownership and control of installations already in Alberta is so close, the difference is negligible.
Next, Jason tries to continue his irrational federalist fear mongering by outlining First Nations reserves are federal land "encompassing 6,556 sq KM, or 1% of Alberta’s land mass".
There’s a lot of discussion to be had here, and in my opinion far more than a social media post, but if we want to talk about decolonization, equality, and respect for all citizens, making the argument that somebody else owns your land isn’t a very good pillar to stand on. I’m certain that the 138 First Nations would love to come to the table and have a discussion about increased land ownership, self-determination, freedom, and economic success free of Ottawas 159 years of failure.
About the airports - Carney has already publicly stated that he’s thinking about selling them to finance his other federalist "investments". Not really something to hang your hat on.
So you can consider the challenges having very viable, reasonable and possible solutions. You can also consider your numbers to not reflect the reality of a division of assets and liabilities. +-1.8% of Alberta’s land mass isn’t worth living in fear over.
You must be afraid and worry, the federalists say. The sky will fall. Or not, ‘cause facts are hard for Jason and the federalists.
Jason Nixon (and many others) are trying to make the case that Albertans receive good value from Ottawa for all the money we send there.
This year alone, Alberta taxpayers (citizens and businesses will send the following money to Ottawa:
Income Tax: $30 billion
Corporate Tax: $12 billion
GST: $9 billion
CPP & EI: $10 billion
Misc. fees: $8 billion.
That's a whopping $69 billion..... which by the way, is equivalent to 80% of our provincial budget.
We get back the following in transfers and direct services:
Health transfers: $13.3 billion
Equalization: $0
CPP & EI: $7.5 billion
OAS: $3.5 billion
For a measly total of $24.3 billion.
The difference is $44.7 billion.
Are you happy with the "services" you're getting from Ottawa for that $44.7 billion (military, coast guard, embassies, border security, museums)?
I'm convinced we could do better on our own.
For context, most western governments run on budgets equivalent to 30-40% of their county's GDP.
Alberta's GDP was $360 billion in 2025, so as a independent country, it would be quite normal for our government to spend $105-$144 billion per year.
Alberta's spending last fiscal years was $81 billion. That means that as a country, we need to replace $24-$63 billion.
It's 100% doable. Would we save a lot of money in the near-term? No. But that's not the driver. An independent Alberta will unleash it's prosperity, and preserve its culture.
What negative is there to mandatory military service? There’s a ton of benefits. The citizenship thing is IMO to stop this ridiculous thing they do where they just grant you citizenship to pollute the generational population with people who vote for you because you gave them benefits. And that vision of society from the past is what our values were built on before this whole no Canadian culture destruction came about.
If you look at the amount of equalization sent out to provinces and the amount of money sent to the federal government from Alberta we are consistently sending the lions share of the money the federal gov is redistributing to “poorer” provinces. Do you not understand the definition of equal? It’s the whole reason they baked it into the constitution.
@JasonOnTheDrums We almost exclusively fund equalization, basically an Alberta only tax, if we stopped paying that we might have had no deficit this year
@JasonOnTheDrums Manatobia got like 6 or 7 billion in equalization this year an increase from the 5 last year. He’s in no position to talk about fiscal responsibility
@DavidMcLA Your Prime Minister redirected Canada to the EU and increased taxes that he never campaigned on. He has no electoral mandate to do what he’s doing.
@Rorythemuser Fair enough, one company. All I can say is see you later ✌️ 10 bucks says they relocate to the states because they are for sure not going to want to pay the corp tax rate in any other province. With rev under a million they couldn’t afford it.
Reason 493 that Alberta staying in Canada is bad news, it makes sense when you consider the FN chiefs are so easy to buy off and they will do their Canadian master bidding at the cost of their people’s reputation
Mark Carney Just Voted Against Protecting Your Property Rights https://t.co/3baJpELqD9 via @YouTube
@CanadianModera1 Andddd here come more lies from the left. My uncle renounced his citizenship lives in Asia and still gets cpp, so try something based in truth next time
You can only abuse people for so long, until they decide to fight back.
An apology is owed.
And for Albertans, an apology will not be enough.
For starters, they need to fix the seats issue, among many many other things
I hope they do not leave.
But I do not blame my friends.
@JasonOnTheDrums Not even close, it’s a federalist party with a independent base, we were cool with it because besides the independence thing conservative values have brought us more prosperity then the rest of Canada but now they want their cake and to eat it to