Most of you are not actually being discipled.
You’re being entertained on Sunday and formed by the world the other six days.
That’s not a church problem. This is the pervasive formation challenge the modern Christian movement.
One hour of teaching cannot compete with 167 hours of culture forming you in the opposite direction. You don’t need more information about God.
You need rhythms that put you in His presence long enough to be changed by Him. The gap between what you know about God and how you actually live is the gap Counter Formation exists to close.
Passive faith without active obedience produces a person who receives but never gives.
Active faith without genuine abiding produces a person who serves until they’re empty and calls it devotion.
Jesus didn’t tell the branches to abide so they could feel peaceful. He told them to abide so they would bear fruit…fruit that remains, fruit that serves His Kingdom. The abiding is passive in source. The bearing is active in obedience. The vine produces the life. The branch carries it somewhere.
When we separate these we end up with two distortions that both feel like faith. One looks like a person who knows all the right things and has never given anything away. The other looks like a person serving from an empty well so long they’ve forgotten what fullness feels like.
But the motive or heart posture question is where it gets uncomfortable. Are you abiding and serving to become a better version of yourself, or are you coming to Him with open hands saying fill me and use me for the Kingdom work You designed me to carry?
One still has self at the center. The other is an act of worship.
Abide so you have something worth bearing. Bear fruit so He can use you as the vessel He created you to be.
John 15:4-5 / Romans 12:1
He is actually describing the fruit of the Spirit and doesn’t have the language for it. That peace and contentment he keeps noticing in Christians isn’t a personality type or a coping mechanism. It’s what grows in a person who has genuinely surrendered to Christ over decades.
You can’t artificially produce them in yourself. You can’t perform it in front of someone who interviews people for a living. It’s the overflow of abiding, and the embracing of the gift of the Holy Spirit… it created the most compelling argument Lennox never had to make.
Most people’s sense of what they care about was handed to them by culture, expectation, and circumstance rather than actually chosen. So the real question isn’t just “are you doing enough of what you care about” – it’s “did you ever decide what was actually worth caring about, and where did that answer come from?”
@Tim_Denning The only pursuit that doesn’t eventually hollow out is the one where God is both the path and the destination. Everything else is just a longer route to the same realization.
What you are really describing is a formation deficit. Most people have nothing built underneath them before life starts pulling the thread. The TV show and the pet aren’t bad…they’re just not really load-bearing.
The people who don’t hang by a thread aren’t tougher or luckier. They just built something intentional to counter the weight of the world…an established community, spiritual disciplines, a sense of purpose, identity, and being fully known that can only come from Him.
Only one ancient text carries the wisdom of the old, brings life, transforms lives, and has changed entire nations. Every other old book has dead authors. This one just happens to still have its Author very much alive and still speaking to anyone willing to sit with it long enough to hear Him.
The feed has no chance against it.
Humility is an act of trust…but it’s built on top of a foundation of deep trust in Him that is formed over a long season of daily surrender. Our ego, our control, our dreams, our desires, our immediate responses and feelings…all of it laid down before Him, repeatedly, over time to reform our hearts to align to His.
The peace in the chaos, the forgiveness when you’ve been wronged, the hope when the situation says otherwise those are the fruit of a life built around Him. It requires a daily surrender of yourself and intentionally deciding to obedient to however he calls you to further his Kingdom…
@RGIII What makes the waiting bearable isn’t just knowing God is working…it’s having built the kind of relationship with Him where you’ve already seen enough to trust what you can’t see yet.
@artfuIchaos The most grounded people in the room are rarely the loudest, because they don’t need the room to confirm what they already know about themselves. That comes from a settled identity, which is almost impossible to fake.
Most people only notice the weight of a chaotic environment when they finally step into a calm one. That contrast is the thing worth paying attention to. What you surround yourself with daily isn’t just affecting your mental state. It’s shaping what feels normal, what you desire, and who you’re becoming.
The monastery wasn’t originally built for focus, but for formation. The silence, the rhythm, the intentional structure were the conditions under which people were actually transformed. What’s interesting is that the world is rediscovering the framework while seemingly missing what it was designed to hold.
The need for it is definitely real and it can impact the world. The question is… do you use it with the goal to be deeply Formed by Him, or for general spirituality designed for self care, self reflection, etc?
What you’re describing has a name…it’s what it costs to be set apart. Most people can hold that posture for a season. The ones who hold it for a lifetime aren’t the ones who are toughest or most certain. They’re the ones anchored to Him…the one thing that doesn’t shift when the narrative does.
The world will always reward the pretenders. The only measuring stick that doesn’t move is the one that was never set by the world to begin with.
The conclusion most people draw…that permanent satisfaction doesn’t exist, so stop searching misses the mark. The restlessness shouldn’t be a surprise. It’s a signal.
It’s what happens when something designed for permanence keeps reaching for things that can’t hold. The search doesn’t need to end… “our hearts are restless until they find their rest in the one thing that doesn’t change.”
The problem is that many of us have spent our entire lives in systems in family, work, performance culture where love was conditional.
So we know this truth intellectually and still live like it isn’t true. The gap between knowing God’s love is unconditional and actually resting in it and not striving, not performing, not waiting to feel worthy…thats where the growth tends to happen.
What’s easy to miss is that the David within you isn’t created by the Goliath…it’s revealed by it. David didn’t become who he was in front of the giant. He became who he was in the fields, in the years nobody was watching, in the quiet faithfulness long before the valley.
The giant just surfaces what was already being built. The most important work happens before the battle arrives.
“We hurt when they hurt” is one of the most countercultural things a person or organization can commit to.
Getting in the foxhole costs something. And the people who do it consistently aren’t just more compassionate by nature.
That kind of love doesn’t show up on demand, it is built over time through a journey of spiritual maturity as we chose to surrender and allow him to transform our hearts and become more like him.
What’s easy to miss is that the setback isn’t just buying you time…it’s doing something in you that the open door never would.
The waiting, the closed door, the season that makes no sense is not just preparation for what’s next. God isn’t just managing your timeline. He’s working to transform you…
Scripture calls us to be salt and light but most of us have been so gradually shaped by the world around us that we’ve lost the taste that makes salt useful and the contrast that makes light visible.
Being set apart was never meant to be comfortable. It should feel awkward. It should feel weird. When you are the stillness in the noise, the joy in the grief, the peace that makes no sense given the circumstances…people will notice. And they won’t always know what to do with it.
The measuring stick was never cultural relevance or social comfort. It was Christ. And if we’re being honest, the holiness of Christ…the actual life He lived and called us toward…should feel very countercultural to anyone paying attention.
Number 5 and 6 are the ones that makes the other 8 possible. You can learn the mechanics of good conversation…eye contact, listening, asking questions. But the person who consistently makes others feel seen isn’t running through a checklist.
They’ve internalized something true about the people in front of them. This is born from spiritual formation and intentionally realigning your daily heart posture to Him.