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@goblingruel Whoa this takes me back

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@kdotmcfarland All I see in ICE is a bloated government department doing nothing of value, helping no one, hurting a ton of people, causing more problems than it solves, and costing us all a ton of money. For what purpose? No one ever seems to be able to provide an actual cost-benefit analysis.

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@kdotmcfarland What *practical and measurable benefit* does it have? Why add extra scrutiny to immigrants and not people moving states? Heck it's not illegal in the US to move once you have a criminal record, so why make it so for this?

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@kdotmcfarland So this is a very basic fact:

Native-born Americans kill people too. In fact they commit violent crime at a much higher rate than first-gen immigrants (see above).

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@kdotmcfarland Why? Don't give me vague platitudes, what *specific* negative outcomes do you think occurred during the period of time in which the US freely allowed immigration without conditions, relative to now?

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@kdotmcfarland Why. Tell me specifically, with stats to back it up, why the US government would get a good return on the massive amount of money, infrastructure, and delays it takes to do that. This is a *huge* investment, surely there ought to be hard numbers to back up its worth?

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@kdotmcfarland @Eman856 @hasanthehun But for an immigrant, why would you ever need a background check to dig up details like that? If they have an existing outstanding warrant from their home country, that can be checked easily enough, nothing more thorough or complicated is warranted though.

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@kdotmcfarland @Eman856 @hasanthehun Background checks are needed to enforce laws about people who are *already judged to be violent by the legal system*, being able to access weapons which *provably* pose a statistically high threat to innocent people.

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@kdotmcfarland @Eman856 @hasanthehun And if a country is willing to sign an extradition + border-denial treaty with the US, then they can pay for an easily accessible database we can run someone's id / prints / etc through in 30 seconds. This is a problem solved by every DMV in the US, it's not hard.

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@kdotmcfarland @Eman856 @hasanthehun But that's not because immigrants are more likely to be criminals - first generation immigrants are *less* likely to commit crimes than native citizens. (https://t.co/P7C3AbxNf8) It's because it's diplomatic good manners to not be a "get out of jail free" card.

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@kdotmcfarland @Eman856 @hasanthehun And it was just fine. Seriously, it was fine. There's no reason to not have the whole process be "You want to be a citizen? You're aware this means you have to give up other citizenships? Cool, fill out this paperwork for your country of origin, we'll mail you your forms. Next!"

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@kdotmcfarland @Eman856 @hasanthehun Actually yes.
There used to be a box to check on Ellis Island immigration forms for if you were a stowaway. They still automatically gave you papers and full legal status right there at the border if you said yes, they just wanted to know for statistics.

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@KrangTNelson Yeah this is just like. A thing an opposition party might do to identify themselves in perfectly ordinary times. If anything it highlights how normatively they're acting about him, by emphasizing the absence of more overt action and signals of crisis.

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@goblingruel I will never get enough of these two

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@goblingruel I didn't realize how much I needed to see these two together until now.

Wow, now I'm imagining Gale getting a sweet and cheery invite to the after-game orgy where everyone fucks Leora.