@IsraeliSabra@BoxLoner That being said, I can't say I am familiar with Israeli politics more than surface level stuff, and the "they will moderate if we hear them out"-argument doesn't seem to apply to palestinians 9/10 times... So fuck if i know.
@IsraeliSabra@BoxLoner The hope would be that the arab parties moderate quite a bit if they have a shot at gaining some small amount of real representation. That's usually the case in these many-party democracies, they have to compromise.
@AviBittMD Who did you vote for in the trump vs biden election big dawg? Just curious if your enthusiasm for ossof will be as great when you hear JD vance's position on support of Israel, and compare it to Ossof. I think you should reflect on that question.
@Ioris_TG I can tell english is not your first language, and that's okay. As a test of your own intelligence you should start from the top of this conversation, and have a chatbot assist you in understanding my question. Come back to me when you're caught up.
@Ioris_TG That answer obviously depends on which gender you think has the better social status, I don't know which of them you think that is. If you're asking me to define it for you, I'll go with female->male, for greater more upwards mobility, but it depends what u weight more in life.
@Ioris_TG Depends on which gender u think has the better social status i guess, I'll let u choose the gender that u think has more of whatever it is you value in terms of "social status".
@IsraeliSabra@BoxLoner Btw, I'm not blaming you for the far right in Israel, I'm just saying that the current system has Ben-Gvir literally in government talkin sweet nothing into Netanyahu's ear, that is the political reality which you have to contend with.
@IsraeliSabra@BoxLoner Agreed, their prefered candidates are nuts, but so are the far right Israeli candidates, who are in power right now, and doing crazy unhinged shit on the world stage. It is easier to moderate arab politicians in the current Israeli political environment, than vice versa
@IsraeliSabra@BoxLoner Due to them being the minority voting base, which means any "risk" calculations should take that into account. It's like in the US, you kinda have to give crazy rural republicans a way to air their grievances, even if that results in crazy political stances from them.
@IsraeliSabra@BoxLoner A hundred trillion percent agree with you on everything u said here! I think arabs have an insane problem with not being unhinged, and letting Israel justify crazy responses. I'm saying that arabs voting for crazy people, and Israeli's doing the same, hold different weight.
@IsraeliSabra@BoxLoner And the be clear, there probably should be, but to pretend that this is close to a 50/50 situation in either direction is dishonest. The minority in any democracy has to be handled very carefully.
@IsraeliSabra@BoxLoner The problem is, that the arabs don't have a say in Israeli's voting for far-far-right parties, that want to take their rights away, while Israeli's can fear monger about arabs voting in their own interests, even if their candidates are imperfect. There is a power imbalance here
@Ioris_TG You feel this way in the hyothetical, you are not made to feel this way, no conditioning from the deep state gorilla marxist laboratories here. In this case, would you want to change your gender if you could?