@HermannHessed Kinda reminds me of that well-known Morris Berman quote: “An idea is something you have; an ideology is something that has you.” From his book: Coming to Our Senses: Body and Spirit in the Hidden History of the West.
@bernardtjoy The first, and probably only, laugh-out-loud funny novel I’ve read was The Water-Method Man by John Irving. When I was in high school. Since then I’ve read many funny novels: Vonnegut, Dickens come immediately to mind.
@QuoteJung Interesting and on point. Jung wouldn’t have used the word “trigger,” so this is an interpretation of something in Jung, one of his “principles,” perhaps. But not a direct translation (I wouldn’t think). 🤔
@AdamsOrArdor novel: The Damnation of Theron Ware (Harold Fredric); short story collection: The Watchful Gods (Walter Van Tilburg Clark); nonfiction: Coming to Our Senses (Morris Berman)
To @realDonaldTrump:
You are the enabler of the genocidal Netanyahu death cult shooting down starving children and parents and watching human beings kneel over and collapse from starvation and lack of water in Gaza, including doctors and other health workers so weak from lack of food and water that they are collapsing on the floor of what’s left of their hospital.
@biancastone is the confluence poetry affords us…
Would like to hear your thoughts, but certainly won’t be put off if you don’t engage. Glad you began this discussion…
@biancastone Oppen’s view is that precision is the unspoken “quadrant,” the fulcrum & the leverage that clarity needs: “a limited, limiting clarity.” If intelligence is embodied, precision affords (is amenable to) this embodied (intelligent) emission which poetry triggers in us and from us,
@biancastone Thank you for responding! I’ll think about this some more and, perhaps, will respond again. But I’ll have to find a way to write more clearly about “precision.”
@biancastone I think I liked the way you stated this the first time before reposting the correction. Something to the effect that it’s the “precise expression of mixed feelings…” Interesting that Auden states it this way. “Clear” is an aesthetic (?) choice with an audience in mind, whereas
@dlolley_pgh I wish for you the very best. May you have “fair winds and following seas,” nautical phraseology wanting yours to be safe travels on this journey. Blessings.
Oppen says this section 5 is mostly Aristotle anyway; that is, if I am remembering correctly Oppen’s comment about this section. I believe his comments can be found in Oppen’s Selected Letters (Duke Univ. Press); edited by Rachel Blau DuPlessis
@PhysInHistory Has me thinking about Oppen’s poem Of Being Numerous, ie, sec. #5:
The great stone
Above the river
In the pylon of the bridge
‘1875’
Frozen in the moonlight
In the frozen air over the footpath, consciousness
Which has nothing to gain, which awaits nothing,
Which loves itself