@xfnty1 @lobs C’est vrai j’ai mal lu cette phrase. Mea Culpa. Ceci dit, ça ne change pas le ton sulfureux (précisément) de l’article… De +, le statut provisoire de témoin assisté fait-il que JB n’est plus son avocat? Même Europe1 n’est pas très clair (article d’hier) https://t.co/bKavXcgfWw
@internisus @nerdTrollBridge @EFF@torproject 2/2 Wrt the latter (which btw seems to acknowledge that privacy matters), is it truly anonimyzed and how transparent is the system? So far Google is not trustworthy when it comes to privacy, so it’s normal and desirable to be cautious, that was my point
@internisus @nerdTrollBridge @EFF@torproject You made 2 completely different statements: “Privacy is not important since ppl use GAFAM and are fine” and “Google new system does not harm because it’s anonymized”. I was talking about the 1st one. 1/2
@internisus @nerdTrollBridge @EFF@torproject Even though some don’t care (or take privacy for granted), a lot do but have no other realistic choice than using “the Internet” basically.
Take a step back and ask yourself how the lack of privacy is dangerous for the free will of individuals and for a democracy in the long run
@GundemFransa@LilaAmadei@CJ24756647@Clem_Autain Le protocole ne prévoit pas que quelqu’un n’ait pas de chaise à une rencontre, il prévoit la préséance - ça n’a rien à voir. On vous refile un tabouret quand vous êtes invité à un meeting?
@internisus @nerdTrollBridge @EFF@torproject True the example is extreme, but privacy has far reaching csq on ppl lives and on society as a whole, if you take time to think about it. Google is probably #1 threat to privacy in the world, so there’re good reasons to be extremely cautious about a so-called "anonimized" system
@hhariri@martynas_margis@signalapp I share your concerns, but, c’mon, a payment solution (far from Signal main goals), through crypto (a world still associated with scams & instability) and especially a new coin noone ever heard about, and for which Moxie have profit interests 🤦🏻♂️ That’s extremely risky & worrying
@moxie@bjt2n3904 OK, noble cause, but now if this wish fails, Signal sinks with it. What a risk when we FINALLY had a mainstream, privacy-friendly App.
@signalapp Also, I´m wondering how it’s even possible, from a transparency perspective but also towards all those who believe in and support Signal, to make such an announcement out of the blue. Signal wouldn’t exist without its supporters/donors, so keep them involved or at least updated.
@signalapp So disappointed.... You promised a privacy-focused messaging app and are doing great so far, please don’t transform it into a bloated app. If you go the way of experimenting with new services, AT LEAST create a separate app, and chose a « reputable » coin, not an obscure one
@hhariri@martynas_margis@signalapp The fact that Signal is a non profit organisation operating thanks to donations from privacy-believers who can retract their support at any time is one of the reasons of Signal’s success. I understand ppl are suspicious with new ways of making money, esp. with audacious ones...
@rostyslav999s @plsletmedye @ashwin_baindur@iamharshitn @KoalaAngsty @QuekaDeQueso @signalapp But you don’t need to know it, because you already know, based on the App code running on your own device, that your messages are not leaving your device in an unencrypted form, and so that your chats are inexploitable by the server anyway.
@ashwin_baindur@iamharshitn @KoalaAngsty @rostyslav999s @plsletmedye @QuekaDeQueso @signalapp Why would Telegram inventor not be under control of KGB then? You can choose to trust a guy (who might be genuinely honest), or to trust a code openly accessible reviewed by professionals and a community, that’s up to you...
@ashwin_baindur@iamharshitn @KoalaAngsty @rostyslav999s @plsletmedye @QuekaDeQueso @signalapp WA went closed source long time ago and has been significantly modified since then. They are not similar. Signal went his own way, you can see the code and check the e2e. Telegram is open source but not e2e, so they can execute anything they want server side so you don’t see it.
@iamharshitn @KoalaAngsty @rostyslav999s @plsletmedye @ashwin_baindur @QuekaDeQueso @signalapp Also, like buttons and celeb pages are only small part of how profiling is achieved. Profiling = gathering all kind of data (such as likes but anythg else too) and using them to infer info on you/your personality. It’s then potentially sold & reinterpreted, and so on.