I wish people who like Rien would all agree that he brought everything that’s the worst in life on himself (and his daughters!) instead of babying him and acting like he has rights to blame anyone but himself on his life of endless suffering
@rinacwy yeah the whole point is that the entire cogito project was unhealthy for everyone involved, carmen didn’t mean to feed into everyone’s idolization but she ended up corrupting herself with it later on (ie ruina)
are we fr? she wasn’t a malicious manipulator figure but that fuckin unhealthiness goes both ways we gotta stop acting like carmen WASN’T complicit in her own fucking project
@narvallius there are so many clues that yes she did make a lot of the chars emotionally dependent on her but she wasn’t malicious about it and it’s like such a tragic misread to just be like ‘umm well she’s innocent cause she didn’t mean for anything to happen!’
The “profiting off his death” argument will always be funny to me when you realize we’re talking about the guy who until the very end chose to “sell out” to support his family and put his siblings through college
People on the internet have become so "progressive" that we've gone back to letting racist behaviors go unchecked because if people try snd say literally ANYTHING about it people will say you're "moral policing" and "perpetuating cancel culture" or whatever the fuck