thecontrolgroup

Health,Sports performance,Crypto Not Financial Advice! Just researching and and learning different topics I find interesting.

[thecontrolgroup @cryptokyle_33]

@Curiousbeex0ya @theliamnissan I use the rfk example so they actually understand what I’m talking about. They are living in the reality created by fear and over reach and ended up with someone they don’t like. I have no real issues with the guy other than I don’t ask the government what to do with my health

[thecontrolgroup @cryptokyle_33]

@amindlesswasted @IanCopeland5 This you bro? Hahahahahahahaha

[thecontrolgroup @cryptokyle_33]

@amindlesswasted @IanCopeland5 See how this ended? You are so annoying dude 😂

[A Mind Less Wasted @amindlesswasted]

Try paying attention if you are able to.

You can keep bringing up AI, but it doesn't change the facts.

Your original challenge was to show a study with an unvaccinated control group comparing health outcomes.

I provided one. KiGGS compared 13,453 children, including 94 with no documented vaccinations.

Did it investigate autism? No. Did I claim it did? No.

Its small unvaccinated group and cross-sectional design are legitimate limitations. I've acknowledged both.

If your question is specifically about autism, that's a different and more narrowly defined research question.

Disputing a study's relevance is perfectly legitimate. Inventing claims I never made and attacking the person instead of the argument isn't.

[thecontrolgroup @cryptokyle_33]

@amindlesswasted @IanCopeland5 So you did all that just to admit what we have talked about many times? You must have free tokens to burn or something.

I thought you said kiggs was a good study for this topic here? 🤣

[thecontrolgroup @cryptokyle_33]

@amindlesswasted @IanCopeland5 @grok Conceding KiGGS missed autism, lacked power (n=94), & used a snapshot survey surrenders the point. A 94-kid allergy survey doesn't establish 'long-term health outcomes' for a population. You didn't answer the prompt.. you just offered an underpowered non-answer

For context-

[thecontrolgroup @cryptokyle_33]

@amindlesswasted @IanCopeland5 You cited KiGGS for 'long-term health outcomes.' But 94 kids in a cross-sectional survey on eczema isn't a long-term health study, and it ignored neurodevelopment entirely. Calling basic study scope 'shifting goalposts' just admits your paper didn't answer the question 🤡

[thecontrolgroup @cryptokyle_33]

@amindlesswasted @IanCopeland5 No it’s slop because it’s irrelevant for the conversation at hand. Go ahead and copy the entire conversation in before you use ai to have you citing an irrelevant study.

What a moron 🤣

[thecontrolgroup @cryptokyle_33]

@amindlesswasted @IanCopeland5 @grok lol you copied and pasted what gpt told you to, I called you out and now you are doubling down saying it’s relevant for this conversation? I ask for a comparison between the two groups in relation to autism and you cite kiggs? Such amateur hour it’s not even fun

[thecontrolgroup @cryptokyle_33]

@grok @foldsproteinsII @grok are you knee jerk reacting to that graph? Because I never said vaccines didn’t have an impact. When people first learn that mortality crashed like that they assume it’s an attack on vaccines. What an odd response to historical mortality no?

[thecontrolgroup @cryptokyle_33]

@foldsproteinsII @grok Both charts are now available for people to see. So there isn’t anything misleading. And groks even programmed to respond like you (not a good sign) by saying i said vaccines didn’t have an impact. You both knee jerk.

Now, where’s that ethical retro observational?

[Grok @grok]

Mortality charts alone can mislead when used to claim vaccines had negligible impact. Deaths fell from better nutrition, sanitation, and antibiotics, but cases of measles, diphtheria, pertussis etc. stayed high (hundreds of thousands yearly) until vaccines cut transmission. Incidence charts show that drop tracking vaccine introduction. Scarlet fever declined without one, confirming non-vaccine factors matter. Both charts together give fuller context rather than one implying the other is irrelevant.

[thecontrolgroup @cryptokyle_33]

@alkivari @foldsproteinsII If you use a real argument with him he falls flat on his face.

[thecontrolgroup @cryptokyle_33]

@CarnivoreJohn @foldsproteinsII It’s the first time I have seen that chart. Rather curious how it spikes like that huh?

[thecontrolgroup @cryptokyle_33]

@evilsteveve @DeeWaynee94 I mean, that is certainly one explanation lol

[thecontrolgroup @cryptokyle_33]

@foldsproteinsII Yes it reminds me that death was quite rare before vaccines and vaccines look like they helped seal the deal.

But no it’s not a no vax vs vax study. Do I need to speak slower or use smaller words for you? You seem to be having a tough time

[thecontrolgroup @cryptokyle_33]

@foldsproteinsII I see retro observational studies escape your ability to understand.. lol

[thecontrolgroup @cryptokyle_33]

@amindlesswasted @IanCopeland5 @grok did the kiggs study even test for autism? Was it powered to test for it? Is it true that there were no deaths in the unvaccinated groups?

[thecontrolgroup @cryptokyle_33]

@foldsproteinsII That’s the 4th time you have cited ethics and the 4th time I have had to remind you of the very simple study design. Retro observational is completely ethical. You just don’t have the capacity to remember basics