@ColtonYarbro@RyanHurst171 All I am asking is why they removed the language if they believed in the efficacy. If it was based on the WCF, they would have intentionally removed that language. I understand the Catechism was adopted by many Particular Baptist churches, but that doesn't answer the question.
@ColtonYarbro@RyanHurst171 To my understanding, Keach's catechism was not made by the same body that made the 2LBCF. I know they share authors but they aren't connected in the same way as the WCF is with the Larger and Shorter Catechism (i.e. the same standards). Am I incorrect?
@ColtonYarbro@RyanHurst171 Why was the language removed in the confession? I understand the overlap between the confession and Keach's catechism, but they aren't connected in the same way the Westminster Standards are
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@RyanHurst171@ColtonYarbro Happy to hear what Colton says, and I love my Baptist friends. My main point is that the Westminster and 2LBCF have more than one disagreement on baptism; there are multiple noteworthy differences.
@RyanHurst171 Nowhere in the Second London Baptist Confession does it claim either of the sacraments to be efficacious. This is one of the great differences between the Westminster and 2LBCF. There is also no mention of baptism being a seal of the CoG and for regeneration.
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While they definitely have a theology of those things listed above, I would say they are fundamentally different in those measures. They have a different CoG and they removed any language of baptism being efficacious from their confession.
@RyanHurst171 Interesting. I consider any creedal Baptist to be a "Protestant" in the modern sense, although I would limit the classical groups to be the Reformed, Lutherans, and Anglicans. But I would have to disagree with them being in the Reformed category.
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