dandelionlover

just hanging around

[ana 🇵🇷🫐 @2dsworld]

y’all are confusing being responsible for your mental illness with being responsible for your recovery. you are not choosing to be mentally ill and getting better is not super easy. However, recovery requires some level of willingness and participation on your part. people can support you, provide resources, and help you through the process, but they cannot do the work for you. acknowledging that isn’t ableism.

[dandelionlover @dandelion2608]

@lynngranger61 @melvv145 ofc, I'm agreeing with you, but what I'm saying is that to get that help, you need to first seek it out. That can be through asking someone to help you get help, or any other way. But you have to actually take the action of getting treatment

[dandelionlover @dandelion2608]

@lynngranger61 @melvv145 Okay but then the person with the broken leg goes to the hospital, and gets a cast, and gets physical therapy if they need it, so they can walk again. But all of that requires them to actually seek out help instead of dwelling on not being able to walk.

[R ☆ @rllyryry]

The little girl inside keeps me going. I owe her a beautiful life.

[dandelionlover @dandelion2608]

@lynngranger61 @melvv145 The point I'm trying to make is that you have to keep trying to find ways to get past those thoughts, as hard as it is. It can be hard to reach that perspective, but people advising that you should remain resilient are trying to encourage that mindset, so you can get help

[dandelionlover @dandelion2608]

@lynngranger61 @melvv145 That's what I mean by being resilient, you quite literally have to push through those thoughts or seek out ways to do so. For me, it was understanding that these thoughts weren't my own, but a symptom. So I treated them as something to be fixed instead of believing them.

[dandelionlover @dandelion2608]

I've always known that people are extremely racist towards indians/brown people, especially on the internet. But living in a supposed multicultural country, it's really weird and scary to see it irl more and more frequently.

[dandelionlover @dandelion2608]

@lynngranger61 @melvv145 It's no doubt, extremely hard due to the nature of mental illness. That's why people often kill themselves, because it's that hard. But that's why resilience is important. To keep pushing through in whatever way someone can so they get the help they need

[dandelionlover @dandelion2608]

@lynngranger61 @melvv145 That's fair. I do think based on both the convos I've had, it's more of a communication issue than a proper disagreement. Because I think what you're saying is also very much true, but it's true at the same time it's important for people to actually implement changes.

[Kheumani @Kheumani]

My favorite boundary is not explaining myself.

[dandelionlover @dandelion2608]

@lynngranger61 @melvv145 would you be willing to have this discussion in dms? I'd love to keep the conversation going, but the word limit is quite frustrating 😭

[dandelionlover @dandelion2608]

@_iamkabera_ If someone is unwell, then yes, they need support and treatment. But they cannot expect anything to change unless they implement those changes and are receptive to the treatment.

[dandelionlover @dandelion2608]

@_iamkabera_ Okay if we're making a comparison, let's talk about malaria. You can be given, but your body must cooperate. You can't utilise a treatment that your body rejects, and you can't get a treatment unless you seek out care. That is often what resilience as mentally ill looks like.

[dandelionlover @dandelion2608]

@lynngranger61 @melvv145 Yes, suicide prevention is important, but it's also important to assure people struggling that they are capable of getting better. You can try and help them as much as you want, but it won't work unless they believe it will. Which requires resilience.

[dandelionlover @dandelion2608]

@lynngranger61 @melvv145 that's such a horrible thing to say. Claiming that mentally ill people are helpless is exactly why they might feel they can never recover and choose death instead. Me and so many other people here are proof that you can be resilient.

[dandelionlover @dandelion2608]

@melvv145 i do agree that maybe it would've helped to be more specific, but I think the main message of needing to be resilient for a recovery holds up

[dandelionlover @dandelion2608]

@melvv145 But that's often not how resilience works? Resilience is in fact trying even when things are not going well. And part of recovery is seeking support and treatment, and that unfortunately requires the person to try. They don't have to do it alone, but they do have to DO something

[femiiiiii. @femiiiszn]

i get so fascinated when i meet someone smarter than me in any area. i love being around people who think deeper and know things i don't. there's just something attractive about intelligence.

[dandelionlover @dandelion2608]

@Bones_but_cool It slightly makes sense, but I don't know how to explain, so it doesn't really make sense.