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You looking here because you think it'll help you win an argument?

Professional nerd, weekend farmer, full-time father.

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@PeacemakingSt @gtfinchy @BasedMikeLee @PeteHegseth Rewind ~2,000 years. Before Jesus. Before Joseph Smith.

Read Deuteronomy 13.

Then fast forward and apply it to Jesus.

Then see how it applies to Joseph Smith.

Your "church" doesn't pass the Deuteronomy 13 test.

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@PeacemakingSt @BasedMikeLee @PeteHegseth I have a friend named Christian, so obviously that means he follows the Bible, right?

What a retard.

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@Hortysir https://t.co/Lom3s1RDu2

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@Hortysir @slb1981co @NeuralNetLabs I'd love to see what would happen if...but I doubt our current overlords would graciously allow us peasants to have true representation.

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@Not24048805 @DoniTheMisfit Because the letter 'J' was totally in the Hebrew alphabet it's just that everyone somehow missed it for the last 6,000 years?

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@slb1981co @Hang_4_treason @apotheon @Hortysir @NeuralNetLabs Voting doesn't work.
We are already controlled by them.

Trump was voted in...and then did a complete 180 and broke all his campaign promises.

Its his last term, so he doesn't give a crap about being voted out after 4 years...

So voting isn't a threat here...

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@apotheon @slb1981co @Hortysir @NeuralNetLabs The founding fathers saw several flaws with our system and called them out. They even left an "escape hatch" in the Declaration.

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@apotheon @slb1981co @Hortysir @NeuralNetLabs Unfortunately I think it's simply a case of "what we have works well enough even if it has huge flaws, but if you suggest replacing it with something else there can't even be the slightest possibility of a flaw or obviously it's a bad idea".

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@slb1981co @Hortysir @NeuralNetLabs NAP shifts governance to the people.
Communism shifts government to an elite group of people--it's basically what we have in the US today.
Anarchy shifts government to "whoever has the most guns".

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@slb1981co @Hortysir @NeuralNetLabs I'm not following.
No system is perfect, but that wasn't a justification for not starting our representative democracy that got corrupted.

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@slb1981co @Hortysir @NeuralNetLabs (Assuming there are no other 'gotchas' involved--like the person talking/screaming hasn't broken into your living room at 3 am)

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@slb1981co @Hortysir @NeuralNetLabs The aggressor in our current and our hypothesised libertopia is the one who says they're going to kill someone and then makes a move to do so.

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@slb1981co @Hortysir @NeuralNetLabs That's the point though. In exigent circumstances, defend yourself, your family, your friends, your neighbor.

If it's not an immediately life-threatening problem, work it out.

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I'm excited to throw a few dozen @apple iPads in to the landfill because:

1. They were rolled out without involving IT and staff device-locked them to their personal cell numbers...then company went bankrupt and laid off all the employees.
2. @apple HW is garbage (see item 1)

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@slb1981co @apotheon @Hortysir @NeuralNetLabs > Can you think of times when it could be violence
"I'm going to kill you" would count.
Of course you can't trespass onto my property to scream at me. And Walmart will kick you out.

> and times when it couldn't
On their property, in the public commons, etc...free speech.

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@slb1981co @Hortysir @NeuralNetLabs It's a huge issue with the current government.
Seeing as how the "great experiment" has failed pretty spectacularly, let's try something that stands a chance of working.

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@slb1981co @Hortysir @NeuralNetLabs I think you're still stuck in the "might makes right" idea.

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@slb1981co @Hortysir @NeuralNetLabs Sure. But it's voluntary.

Currently government helps protect that monopoly.

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@slb1981co @Hortysir @NeuralNetLabs No. Me deciding to not sell you the food I grew in my garden is not "violence against you". It's me deciding to not sell my stuff to you. It's a voluntary transaction.

1/3 of society scales up from 5 people. No difference there.

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@slb1981co @Hortysir @NeuralNetLabs In the second case, you aren't in immediate danger of harm. And regardless of being in libertopia or a statist utopia, you're going to have to go talk to Bob and if it can't be resolved, talk to a court/arbitrator.

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@slb1981co @Hortysir @NeuralNetLabs I think you're talking about the difference between "exigent circumstances" (someone's trying to kill me right now) and "Yesterday I saw Bob walk near my car and this morning I notice it's been keyed".

In the first case, defend yourself.

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