Stardew Valley Board Game Variants: thread of threads
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@enzikaofash and I love playing board games together - but she likes them relatively low stakes + familiar, whereas I’m after more complexity + novelty
@Shadow_Rebbe@diviacaroline@enzikaofash …but the “bailey” part (how people think & act, what they care about, what they’re reactive about, etc), that motivates caring about the core metric, is probably fairly uncorrelated with wider culture and indeed Bob Kegan’s culture of origin
@Shadow_Rebbe@diviacaroline@enzikaofash sounds like maybe the “motte” part of the Kegan model (ontological spine) probably applies just fine to unschoolers — eg semi-structured subject-object interviews on unschoolers would probably have high interrater reliability…
@diviacaroline@enzikaofash@Shadow_Rebbe but I guess I’m dubois that kids (12-18?) would really be stepping into a 5-ish ontology per se… it’s just too general and powerful an operating system to really have much use for someone who’s not throwing around giant ideological/systemic objects on a daily basis
@diviacaroline@enzikaofash@Shadow_Rebbe I’d be pretty willing to buy that the kinds of content or “abilities” or “health” that kegan points at to describe 3 vs 4 vs 5 are accessible to kids raised in rich, dynamic, non-traumatizing environments
@robinhanson What’s striking to me is how different they are in terms of interaction rituals (à la Collins): athletes engage in many energy-giving high sync physical rituals, office workers engage in many energy-draining low sync rituals.
as far as I can tell, the common pattern seen in people who are very good at getting LLMs to do things is:
- intelligent
- empathetic
- definitely autistic
- some kind of will to power
“It was not just the best of times—it was the worst of times. It was not just the age of wisdom—it was the age of foolishness. And here’s the thing: it was not just the epoch of belief—it was, perhaps more importantly, the epoch of incredulity.”
for me, things optimized for “seeming” difficult and valuable (think video games) are fun and rewarding
whereas things that aren’t fun or rewarding (think folding diapers) are more difficult for me (and others) to in fact do, and are thereby often more valuable than they appear
@diviacaroline I like that this tweet demonstrates a way to generalize while sourcing the impression (“AFAICT”) and scoping the claim (“median”)
it has the opposite nature of a winking, self-refuting tweet like “‘X is universal’ just means ‘X happened to me & i can’t take it as object’”
@WilliamAEden@enzikaofash@diviacaroline Prices may be expression, but like Java API codethey too are “far from the core of creative expression” (internal quotation marks omitted)
@WilliamAEden@enzikaofash@diviacaroline Reminds me of Google v Oracle 2021, where Google’s use of Oracle Java API code in Android was held to be fair use…
From a Google summary: ‘Because this code was highly functional and far from the "core" of creative expression, it was entitled to less copyright protection.’
@WilliamAEden@diviacaroline 😄 The part where the syllogism goes astray is “[all] information is speech”, since much info is about somebody without exactly being produced by them (eg someone’s current gps coordinates).