@redeemed_zoomer That’s because it’s a necessary truth that Christ established the Catholic Church. If Catholicism is false, Christianity as a whole is false. No other way to get around that.
@_y_o_t@KyrieeEleison_ All other Abrahamic religions have philosophical and historical inconsistencies. Protestantism and Orthodoxy lack the marks of the true Church and dogmatize falsities. The only other option would be to grant truths attained by natural reason, foreign of any revelations.
@Thomisticae@sincead33 Because the principle is established prior to any qualifications (namely, that receiving in of itself says nothing of production but identity). Supposedly, when he sent that message to you, he believes to be identified with you 😂
@Thomisticae@sincead33 To say that reception implies identity is so absurd. The lengths these people will go to avoid clear texts in the Father is laughable, just a bunch of silly absurdities. If that principle was true, then a puncher would be identical to an individual who is punched. 1/2
@saint_trae35891 Please stop… if you’ve been exposed to the sphere for any more than a couple of months you’d know that I’m not talking about the ability for AI to synthesize the scholastic texts. I’m clearly referring to its ability to generate translations efficiently.
@athari7445 Hilarious. The Church says that we adore the same God as those who attain to God by natural reason, but you on the other hand don't attain to God but a spaghetti monster. At least there's Muslims who deny your ridiculous doctrines.
John of St Thomas on arguing with Muslims:
“With the people of this sect, there is hardly any room for dispute, because they are most ignorant and are not led by the weight of reasons.”
@baroquerational It was a standard for students of theology to have some form of training in Aristotle, long before Muhammad was even conceived in anybody’s mind. Have you even read any of the Greek or Latin Father’s in the fourth-sixth century? This is embarrassing ignorance.
@athari7445 You’re a low IQ ath’ari that doesn’t know a lick of what you’re talking about. Perhaps you’re struggling with the fact that you’re practically an atheist because your “god” is nothing but a creature.
@Armour_02 Yes, since whatever is really distinct from the divine essence is just composite existence. There’s much more arguments that reduce non-filioquism to composition by scholastic commentators. This is just an argument that I thought of myself.
By the way, all denominations outside of Catholicism lead to a composite view of God.
Even if you are an EO or OO that affirms divine simplicity, the corollary of the doctrines you hold to contradict it.
Non-Filioquism = composition
Miaphysitism = composition
@Armour_02 There’s not one definitive definition of what “energetic manifestation” is, but what we know for sure that it isn’t eternal procession by way of the divine essence. So the Son communicates the negation of pure act! Which is just an act-potency relation.