@f9mpjS3TzzcNEJP@_aliyarbeyovw12@grok "Древнерусское государтсво" и Россия совсем разные государства. В таком случае давай уже тогда Тюркский Кананат сравнивать.
@huseynoglu1@johnsmithuzbekf@_aliyarbeyovw12 However, most modern Uzbeks have less ties to the nomadic Uzbeks, and more ties to the sedentary Uzbeks who comprised most of the Chagatai horde. They have connections to the Golden Horde, yes, but mostly to Chagatai. Or am I wrong? Feel free to correct me.
@huseynoglu1@johnsmithuzbekf@_aliyarbeyovw12 I know, I am on your side here. I am replying to the poster above. Ask any Uzbek - and none will claim to be the heirs to the Golden Horde, but rather, the Chagatai Khanate, which was a separate entity.
Though later hostilities rose between the Qing and the Kazakhs, it's is entirely because of Abylai's decision to protect Amursana, the heir to the Dzungar's throne, who was his friend. These hostilities ended after Amursana died after fleeing to Russia.
https://t.co/2mVSeA6iAy
THIS!
People tend to forget 2 things(all from our history books btw):
1) Russia annexed the Lower Juz because they asked for protection from the devastating Dzungar onslaughts.
2) The Qing destroyed the main Dzungar armies, which is the only reason Abylai Khan could defeat them.
"According to one estimate, up to two-thirds of the entire Kazakh population died during this period."
More than the Soviet-induced famine, btw. Yet none of us seem to remember that, or appreciate the Qing Eight Banners for ending this.
@Yuxuan_CN@adilsuchadil THIS!
People tend to forget 2 things:
1) Russia annexed the Lower Juz because they asked for protection from the devastating Dzungar onslaughts.
2) The Qing destroyed the main Dzungar armies, which is the only reason Abylai Khan could defeat them.
@Outofcontextkz@Quryltai@Faileduard I think in this case 'my young man' makes sense to be used as 'boyfriend', kind of like how westerners say 'my girl'
This is hilarious on so many levels; Turk nationalists think that the Russians 'created' Kazakhs to separate Turks. In reality, the Russians lumped everyone together into the "Turkestan Gubernorat", and later "Kyrgyz ASSR", and we fought TO BE separated out as Kazakhs!
@ihorusse@cabx789 Sovyet işgalinden önce de kazakça mı diyordunuz.Kazak türkü dediğimizde de rahatsız oluyor musunuz?
Azerbaycanlı birine azerice dediğimizde azerbaycan türkçesi de diye bize kızıyor.
Sizin de aynı olduğunuzu düşünmüştük.