@michaelbolton Something about it is like putting fisher price controls on a excavator and saying "can be driven by toddlers". Sure it can but there will probably be bad outcomes.
@michaelbolton Still sticking with my stance the test will be fully autonomous, 1 month after development. The thorny problem of defining requirements in such detail will always be the hindrance. Basically left shift of software definition out of code and into requirements.
@AdamBcars@Kyle_Fortune We have 3 boards as a family.That got old quickly.Normal tyre inflators are hopeless.They can do the pressure but not the https://t.co/kUWqIvVj0a need a proper 2 stage pump.About ยฃ80.
@michaelbolton Absolutely, there are tons of things that a tester does other than the actual, you know, testing. Automate these first. It will probably be handy should you ever want to automate some of the repetitive testing too.
@DavBialek @simon_tomes I agree, with a qualifier. As long as the means of making it quantifiable doesn't take precedence. Like modern schools where the process of measuring learning has overtaken learning itself in priority.
@Kent_Rollins Me and my kids are big fans. We are camping in the U.K this weekend. We took inspiration from you and thought we'd try to make a better McMuffin. It definitely was better!
@zraypaddle got my new Zray - Fury Dual Chamber 11'6 and inflated it (15psi) for the first time today. There is a bit of a bump on the bottom in the centre chamber. Is this anything to worry about?
@michaelbolton I don't think it was necessary to bash automated checks here Michael. Bashing poor testing approaches would have been fine. It's easily possible to miss this stuff with highly prescriptive "manual" tests.
@michaelbolton Using selenium or cypress with declarative, atomic instructions to look for cross browser issues is like putting a new driver in a car and then giving them a really detailed list of steps to drive across a city. Stuff like Applitools is interesting right now though.
@michaelbolton@_TheDefaulter@FioriniSwann Worse,they give a false sense of completion."Testing is finished, all of the test cases have ticks" or "All of those test cases I could think of before I laid hands on the product and before the developer had finished development, have results that appear to be positive, maybe"
@michaelbolton People quickly learn the rules of the game. Silence your inner pessimist and advance in the corporate world. Those who completely lack that inner voice are headed for the very top.
@michaelbolton Pessimism is completely and utterly associated with negativity in the corporate world. Anyone who expresses any form of doubt is shushed/penalised. Even if it is expressed constructively. I.e "let's bring in extra people on release day in case we have issues".
@michaelbolton I'm ok with move fast and break things.But it's a low level hacker https://t.co/9g0yg3W2x1 doesn't scale.If you add bureaucracy bad things https://t.co/4YVVpYCioB'd struggle to find individual engineers at Boeing who would take same path that they took collectively driven by $$$$