Dan O

[Dan O @dmoefc]

@nickshirleyy You’re not a journalist. A journalist would verify first. You’re a propagandist. Something tells me someone was threatened with a lawsuit.

[Dan O @dmoefc]

@JackieD86388657 Don’t worry there’s plenty of outrage to go around. We can be outraged at all rapists and groomers whether part of a gang, famous comedians or anyone else. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. Thankfully members of grooming gangs and comedians are being sentenced to jail.

[Dan O @dmoefc]

@stopukmarriagef @Pirate_Kit @NovaxForcazi Are you saying if someone consents to vaginal sex that also gives consent for anal? Are you saying if you go somewhere with intent to have sex but change your mind, it’s too late? You came over so that is consent to do anything sexually to you? What the fuck is going on here?

[Dan O @dmoefc]

@Thomas61840292 @KobieThatcher I did and told you what the crimes committed were. They weren’t rape. You can’t compare sentences of very different crimes. Certainly not to claim a conspiracy. At least find similar crimes and links not memes. Don’t give me a narrative to back up your point, give me information.

[Dan O @dmoefc]

@Thomas61840292 @KobieThatcher Yeah unfortunately rape in someone’s home rarely has CCTV footage or eye witnesses. You’re saying the sentences show a two tier system though, sentencing isn’t based on strength of evidence just the guilty charges. The charges aren’t comparable and neither should the sentences be

[Dan O @dmoefc]

@Thomas61840292 @KobieThatcher You’re determined to point to a conspiracy so these memes will do for you. They don’t stand up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny.

[Dan O @dmoefc]

@Thomas61840292 @KobieThatcher You can argue they both should have had harsher sentences, I’d agree. But you can’t compare it to a charge of rape. They are in no way the same nor should they be sentenced as such.

[Dan O @dmoefc]

@Thomas61840292 @KobieThatcher I don’t disagree but that’s not the point. The law makes that distinction so it’s a disingenuous comparison to make. Especially when adults in the same case got longer sentences than Brand. It in no way proves or even suggests a conspiracy, as you claimed.

[Dan O @dmoefc]

@B_Schelin @amalaekpunobi I mean “if she doesn’t consent you don’t have sex” is how I’ve lived my life. I have zero concerns. False allegations, although they happen, happen way less than sexual assault not being reported. The reactions to this case show why so many women don’t report it.

[Dan O @dmoefc]

@B_Schelin @amalaekpunobi A rape kit is useless in this case. No one is denying sex took place. No one is denying anal sex took place. A rape kit has zero ability to prove if there was consent or not. That’s my entire point there is no physical evidence that can prove she said no/stop and he didn’t.

[Dan O @dmoefc]

@B_Schelin @amalaekpunobi Yeah and in the eye of the law she is innocent. The jury finding her not guilty is not the same as them finding her innocent. I’m not moving the goalposts. I think she’s guilty. Some of the jury thought she was guilty, the prosecution failed to prove it beyond reasonable doubt.

[Dan O @dmoefc]

@B_Schelin @amalaekpunobi This is solely about the suggestion that no physical evidence means the jury couldn’t be sure he was guilty. I was just pointing out that physical evidence (short of a video with sound) proves nothing in a case like this. The testimony was enough for the jury to be sure.

[Dan O @dmoefc]

@B_Schelin @amalaekpunobi I’ll stick to facts and not some theory of what may happen. There was a case evidence was presented the jury came back with guilty verdicts for 4 of the 7 charges. I’d trust the jury’s opinion having heard the evidence and defence over yours or mine.

[Dan O @dmoefc]

@B_Schelin @amalaekpunobi I have my own opinion. They did look over evidence, what do you think was going on in court for weeks? I’m simply pointing out DNA, cameras, finger prints etc would prove nothing in this case.

[Dan O @dmoefc]

@B_Schelin @amalaekpunobi We didn’t sit in a court for weeks listening to all the evidence. The jury did. They acquitted him of 3 of the 7 charges so they clearly examined each charge based on the evidence presented. My point is DNA, ring cams etc have no benefit in proving consent in this case.

[Dan O @dmoefc]

@Thomas61840292 @KobieThatcher Ah see this is an unfair comparison as this guy was 15 when the crimes were committed and was sentenced as a minor. His co-defendants who were sentenced as adults got much longer 5 1/2 years, 10 years and 18 years.

[Dan O @dmoefc]

@B_Schelin @amalaekpunobi Text messages and testimony are evidence. The jury heard evidence over 4 weeks and unanimously agreed that 4 of the 7 charges had been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. A jury in the US could also find the same evidence shows guilt beyond reasonable doubt.

[Dan O @dmoefc]

@Thomas61840292 @KobieThatcher What sentence specifically are you comparing it to?