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Thank you for talking nicely without using horrible words. Turkish people are always using bad words. I don't know why. By the way, contemporary Hittite and Egyptian sources may preserve names related to the later Achaeans and Danaans. This makes those Bronze Age identifications plausible, especially Ahhiyawa–Achaeans. However, they are external names and proposed linguistic correspondences, not a Mycenaean declaration that “we are Hellenes” or “we are Graikoi.”

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I understand that you call yourselves Hellenes and use “Greek” when writing in English. That isn’t the issue. The question is whether the people of the Mycenaean period called themselves Hellenes, Graikoi or Greeks.

I don’t dispute the decipherment of Linear B. But language classification alone doesn’t establish a people’s ethnic self-name. If a contemporary Bronze Age inscription identifies them as Hellenes, please cite it. Later literature and modern national identity cannot be projected backwards as proof.

This is the same evidentiary standard I apply to every nation, including Turkey. Calling me an outsider doesn’t answer the historical question.

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My point, dear, is about identity and chronology, not denying the decipherment.

Linear B is a script, not an ethnicity. It records a language modern linguists classify within the Greek linguistic branch. However, no Linear B tablet says its writers were Greeks, Graikoi, or Hellenes.

Achaeans, Danaans, Aeolians, Arcadians and Ionians were identified as Greek peoples in later sources. Homer’s poems were formed centuries after the Mycenaean period and contain acknowledged anachronisms and an imagined shared past. Cambridge University Press

Yes, Yunan/Yaunā derives from Ionian, but that first-millennium exonym proves how Persians and other neighbouring peoples later named Greeks not what Mycenaeans called themselves around 1400 BC. Encyclopaedia Iranica

Therefore, language relationships may be demonstrated, but language alone doesn’t establish an ancient population’s self-name or national identity. That identity remains unrecorded. And please do not write nonsense anymore. Later comes never get back. History does not write backwards.

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