@PTrubey@JusDayDa Can’t have it both ways. Either TSLA owns the cybercab, loses sale of vehicle, “self-insures” (see recent $243mil FSD settlement) or you own car and pay livery insurance, absorb pricing risk, depreciation, cleaning, charging, maintenance, and share the $.30/mile with Elon $tslaq
@BM_Capital_@elonmusk@cb_doge@MKBHD Tesla self-certified the vehicle under federal safety rules, but regulators want the technical data it relied on. Deploying driverless hardware without pedals wasn't ever going to bypass scrutiny. — via TechCrunch
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@sillince_bruce@squawksquare What the SEC might actually be interested in is selective disclosure of MNPI to 25 people in Austin last night. Also, ask yourself, if a Cybercab “fleet” will be spectacularly profitable for TSLA, why would they ever sell one to you? $tslaq
@genejchan Tesla “self-certified” as Level 4 is no indicator of FSD readiness for large scale rollout. it is merely a stock pump. L Ron’s claim of “robotaxis in 50% of US cities by the end of the year (2025)” is just another example of what you simps keep falling for. Use some sense $tslaq
@genejchan Per AI: Unlike competitors such as Waymo which explicitly state they assume liability when their autonomous system is at fault, Tesla has not detailed a comparable guarantee for vehicle owners sharing their cars on a future network. $tslaq
@genejchan Per Gemini:
“Tesla has self-certified its dedicated robotaxi fleet as SAE Level 4 in Texas, but consumer vehicles using Full Self-Driving (FSD) Supervised remain classified as Level 2 driver-assist systems.” $tslaq
@genejchan The long standing consensus among the $tslaq crowd is that Tesla fsd will never achieve ADAS level 4 certification. There has been no adjustment to that claim. We are 10 years into the contest, and still winning.
$TSLA up sharply as L Ron finally admits “solar tile” doesn’t work. Plus, Tesla subject to recall of 3 million vehicles in China due to known deadly defect of hidden or undiscoverable door releases as crash victims incinerate. Buy Stonk! $tslaq
@jimmmerhall@Teslaconomics The hopium mine surely requires the joint efforts of $tsla and $spcx. Would be an especially good reason to merge the companies. Vertical integration too. I suspect Adam Jonas could model a separate DCF for that biz unit of a couple hundred billion $.
@autonomousbos@RealDanODowd@Tesla@elonmusk If you had been one of the credulous who gave L Ron $250,000 for the imminent Roadster in 2017, would you now be saying “the glass is still half full.”. ??
@genejchan You tell me your Tesla data is better than mine from robotaxi tracker, but I see it is only because you are extrapolating older data from the same site. Time for you to catch up to reality. There is no visible robotaxi “ramp.” $tslaq
@genejchan That is my question. Where are you getting your data for robotaxis in service. There is no citation or attribution. Is it “Elon says”? $tslaq
@genejchan But you apparently have a better data source than the well known Robotaxi Tracker? Or is your graph of Robotaxis thru time just “what if?” #not_ramping $tslaq
@Leechyboy@StonkKing4 “Safest car” just means it is one of the many vehicles with a 5 star rating, same as Toyota Corolla. The fact that insurance rates are so much higher than avg tells you Teslas are involved in more crashes or > avg cost/repair. More fire Deaths in Teslas than Ford Pintos! $tslaq
@genejchan@grantbelden We agree. FSD approaches perfection (no need for human intervention) asymptotically, meaning it will never be perfect, never “unsupervised”, never arriving as a finished product and Tesla will never accept liability. Juries now see It as flawed and liable.
@genejchan@grantbelden Using your argument that the driver of the car is ultimately responsible is the reason FSD will never become “unsupervised.” Then Tesla would have to absorb responsibility for all accidents. As it is, all cars on the road are unwitting participants in L Ron’s beta test. $tslaq