Breriyaki

should I put stuff up here

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@TheyCallMeSmeef @RemnantPodFan @Nora_TheGreat1 @BumpstockBarbie No, there just has to be a shared understanding.

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@TheyCallMeSmeef @RemnantPodFan @Nora_TheGreat1 @BumpstockBarbie Using words that you actually intend the other person to understand.

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@TheyCallMeSmeef @RemnantPodFan @Nora_TheGreat1 @BumpstockBarbie People having a shared understanding does not make something objective lmao.

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@TheyCallMeSmeef @RemnantPodFan @Nora_TheGreat1 @BumpstockBarbie I don't care if you name something. You haven't addressed it. Naming something doesn't disqualify it lmfao.

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@SoaringUke @BumpstockBarbie I'm not insisting that trans women are females

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@TheyCallMeSmeef @RemnantPodFan @Nora_TheGreat1 @BumpstockBarbie No objectivity is required for this to work. what you guys are all demonstrating when you just say random things is that you can choose to not engage in language in a good faith way and suddenly it becomes incomprehensible. Wow! You've proved an irrelevant point!

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@TheyCallMeSmeef @RemnantPodFan @Nora_TheGreat1 @BumpstockBarbie We've all been socially conditioned to understand language a certain way. Typically we have enough shared understanding to be able to communicate with one another, though in order for this to work, you have to actually want to be understood and use language in a good faith way.

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@RemnantPodFan @Nora_TheGreat1 @TheyCallMeSmeef @BumpstockBarbie Here, I'll make a syllogism.

P1: something, the existence of which is dependent upon subjects, is subjective.

P2: the existence of language is dependent upon subjects.

C: Language is subjective.

Do you agree or disagree, and if you disagree, specifically why?

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@RemnantPodFan @Nora_TheGreat1 @TheyCallMeSmeef @BumpstockBarbie No, this is completely wrong. The physical thing of "water" is going to exist regardless of if we define it or not. That's what makes it objective. The terms "water" and "H20" only exist because humans created them.

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@TheyCallMeSmeef @RemnantPodFan @Nora_TheGreat1 @BumpstockBarbie I don't find it to be worth my time or effort

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@RemnantPodFan @Nora_TheGreat1 @TheyCallMeSmeef @BumpstockBarbie In essence, without humans H2O would exist.

Though, without humans, it would not be called "H2O".

Because language is a thing that humans do.

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@RemnantPodFan @Nora_TheGreat1 @TheyCallMeSmeef @BumpstockBarbie Do you understand the delineation between a thing existing and us humans using language to describe its existence

These are two different things.

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@TheyCallMeSmeef @RemnantPodFan @Nora_TheGreat1 @BumpstockBarbie And yet, despite your babbling, they still remain two different things.

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@SoaringUke @BumpstockBarbie Not the way I use it

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@SoaringUke @BumpstockBarbie "It's right there in the language. White women are white women. You have to identify who you're talking about by using the word white."

Your logic

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@TheyCallMeSmeef @Nora_TheGreat1 @BumpstockBarbie Like yeah lmfao the language IS irrelevant to the fact that it exists which is why I'm not saying it's a existence is subjective I'm saying THE LANGUAGE is subjective.

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@TheyCallMeSmeef @Nora_TheGreat1 @BumpstockBarbie Literally nobody disagreed with this fact, and I've specified several times that I'm not contesting that things do or don't exist in physical reality lmfaooo

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@TheyCallMeSmeef @Nora_TheGreat1 @BumpstockBarbie Fast forward, you already said you aren't saying that language exists without subjects. The term "H2O" is a manifestation of language. Here we are.

Yes, you can use language to refer to objective things.
No, that does not make language itself objective.

[Breriyaki @dylanbreloom]

@TheyCallMeSmeef @Nora_TheGreat1 @BumpstockBarbie Again. Are you positing that the term "H2O" would exist without subjects?

For clarity: I'm not asking would water exist in physical reality. I'm talking about the term. The letters. The word. Language.