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My point wasn’t about the literary structure of Nirvana Shatakam. It was about the human being reading it.

I can point to a rose and say, “It’s not a mango.” Have I actually conveyed the rose? Negation is still language. Whether language points, describes or negates, it remains within the domain of the psyche.

That is precisely why Vedanta insists on preparedness before Sravana . Otherwise the teaching is merely understood conceptually.

My suggestion is simply that depth psychology can help cultivate part of that preparedness for many modern seekers. It is neither a substitute for Vedanta nor its final destination.

Jung and Shankara are addressing different layers of being.

Jung asks, “Who is unconsciously running your life?”

Shankara asks, “Who is the one you take yourself to be?”

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The real divide is between closed metaphysics, which decides beforehand what reality must be, an
open inquiry, which allows evidence to reshape https://t.co/WqIO3SQgTA is a method,spirituality is experience.both become reliable only when they remain open to correction.“Good science” should say current evidence is insufficient.

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The age of 35 is not what matters. I would treat it as a metaphor.The real turning point comes when your unconscious material begins to suffocate you.
For one person, that happens at 22 through trauma.For another, at 47 after the loss of a spouse.age is incidental. Crisis will reveal your borrowed/inherited identity is insufficient for the life you are actually leading.

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The funny part is that even when someone claims to know what remains after the ego becomes quiet, they finally say it is unsayable. Then comes Nirvana Shatakam, another language pointing toward what supposedly cannot be put into language.

So do not become trapped by nomenclature.

And perhaps you have reduced Jung to casual self-study or “therapy in an armchair.” Jungian analysis is not merely reading about the shadow and calming the ego. It is a disciplined process conducted with a trained analyst, involving complexes, projections, dreams, resistance, transference and unconscious patterns.

A person (scholars)can possess perfect Vedantic vocabulary ..can appear as a ‘guru’-and still remain governed by fear, projection and unconscious compensation.
Knowing the word viveka is not discrimination.
The person most desperate for a guru may be least capable of recognising one.
Perhaps a “ideal” guru cannot simply be found. Perhaps the guru finds you!

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Only if you assume Jung was trying to reach Advaita’s final conclusion. Jung is highly useful before the final recognition . For Vedanta, the classic preparation is Sadhna-catustaya.. Without this work, a person may read Shankara and say:
“I am not the body. I am pure consciousness.”
But practically it fails for almost all Advaita followers. Everyone in pop-spirituality knows this but will not help navigating life.” There is no doer” becomes their coping mechanism not their personal truth.they have missed the major step in between.repeating self affirmations (I am Brahman)is not non-duality…it doesn’t dissolve one who is repeating. Jung helps prepare the person.

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It appears like a paradox:
Looking forward, life appears chaotic.
Looking backward, events may appear connected.

“Everything is already predetermined, so there is no point doing anything” is passive fatalism.

You are also part of whatever produces the future. Your resistance, intelligence, stupidity, courage and surrender all belong to fate.

Everything is not pre-written. Everything is conditioned.

Your birth, body, family, wounds and encounters form the field delivered to you.

But every delivered moment becomes another junction.

Most people do not consciously choose at that junction. Their fear chooses. Their conditioning chooses. Their momentum from the unfinished past chooses.

A chance meeting may be the intersection of two independent lives. Yet the intensity it awakens may reveal a pattern waiting to be completed.

Retrospectively, we demand that the wound should never have happened.

But the event happened once. Anyhow, resentment makes it happen every day.

In hundreds of PLR cases, I have repeatedly seen the same pattern: people continue reacting to an event long after the event itself has ended.

In one’s final moments, if one exclaims life was all predetermined... imagine the guilt and hopelessness!

Escaping fate is not freedom.
Freedom is a state of realisation when one no longer experiences oneself as the victim of “pre-destined” events.

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@CuriosityonX Which worldview best prepares someone for death and the continuity of consciousness, (if/since)consciousness survives bodily death?

That’s the better question….

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@RaminNasibov “He/she” stopped calling

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the past is “unpredictable” because its meaning keeps changing. The past should be fixed.
But in human life, it isn’t.

A childhood event at 10 feels different at 20, 40, and 70.
Same event but Different interpretations

A breakup once felt like betrayal. Later it feels like rescue.
In eastern philosophy .. Liberation is when the past loses the authority to impersonate the present.

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@waldenpod You know it because every doubt, every question, every denial appears inside it.

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Numbers do not have consciousness.
Consciousness gives numbers meaning.

Like birthdays, for example.

A birthday is just numbers on a calendar:
9 July,
12 March,
9 minutes,
49 days.

The numbers themselves feel nothing.

But consciousness attaches memory, identity, love, fear, ritual, loss, and expectation to them.

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A little story that I use to explain kids to understand Ontology .. it goes like this …

Ama smiled.

“Bring me the apple,” she said.

Tara picked up the apple.

“Does the apple exist?” Ama asked.

“Yes.”

“How do you know?”

“I can see it. I can hold it. I can eat it.”

Ama nodded.

“Good. Now bring me the number 7.”

Tara picked up the paper.

“This is not the number 7,” she said. “This is only ink.”

Ama laughed.

“Then how many apples would we have if I gave you seven apples?”

“Seven.”

“So the number works?”

“Yes.”

“Then do not ask whether number 7 exists like an apple exists. Ask how number 7 exists in our counting game.”

Tara became quiet.

Ama said, “Not everything exists in the same way.”

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If someone is tracking “my meditation progress,” meditation has not begun. The tracker at best may measure calmness. It cannot measure the disappearance of the one who wants to be calm. Generally, we have misunderstood and interchangeably used relaxation for meditation. Relaxation has a subject. Meditation begins when the subject is gone. No one can “do” meditation. It cannot be “caused.” Quantifying nervous-system agitation is not meditation.

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The mistake is treating intelligence as the highest category. Computers may beat humans in terms of intelligence. That does not make them superior beings. A calculator beats me at arithmetic. It still does not know what it is like to lose a brother, betray a friend, fear death, or forgive. A human has to answer for the last breath. That is the difference.

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@AnthropicAI J-space is mind-space.
But the question remains:

Is anyone inside who can suffer, die, remember, and seek liberation?

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@AnthropicAI What is Claude thinking before it talks! Is anyone inside?

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In theory, yes. But existence does not obey Excel-sheet logic.

A poor child with asymmetric hunger, tenacity, and genius can change the GDP of a family, a community, even a nation.

Breakthroughs are not born through linear planning, e.g., getting the best nutrition or attending international schools and colleges. They are not causal.

Genius minds usually emerge from pressure, scarcity, stress tests, migration, humiliation, and the refusal to stay where society placed you.

History is full of immigrants and poor families whose children transformed entire generations.

Poverty is a problem. But the poor are not the problem. The real danger is when privilege treats human potential as a budget checklist. Nature is much smarter than our sum of IQs. Inherited wealth often produces safety, but one hungry mind can outperform ten comfortable heirs.

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@GoutamGhosal3 @AmazingVedas The tragedy is that most people have read none of them!

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Man forgets, but time does not. Does time have memories?

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Free will does not exist at the level of the next thought. You don’t choose the next desire, fear, attraction, trauma-response, or impulse. They arise from biology, memory, karma, conditioning, and circumstance.

But freedom begins when awareness enters. You may not choose the first movement. You can choose whether to remain possessed by it.