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[미술 @918_ryul]

Ryul recreating his baby photo😭😭😭

[cilcacil @Guiltlesschacil]

upload disini juga ah

[twice anniversaries @todayintwice]

1 year ago today, SANA got her makeup done by Luigi Mangione at YSL Beauty pop-up event in Tokyo.

[ufa shotties|fokus vote tcoy @ilovemisosupp]

BENCI FYP KU GINI SEMUA KARNA AU IRUL SUPIR TRUK 😭😭😭😭

[dane @eggfyolk]

rektor apa sih orang ceo juga😡

[Bardan - Digital Marketer @bardanslm]

cuma penasaran aja siii...
gigi kan background pendidikannya jelas yak, S1 di UI ambil FE walaupun enggak selesai pindah ke Australian National University dan selesai, kampus bagus jg.

tapi bisa2 nya kok mbak gigi bisa ngebiarain suaminya dapet gelar dari kampus yg aksen rektor bahasa inggrisnya unik itu??? 🙏

[Dominar Rygel XVI @RygelXVl]

I'm not going to come here and pretend to be Irene's or Red Velvet's biggest fan; if you look at my profile, you'll probably figure out that I'm a Wendy fan, Im a muggle with a bit of knowledge in music and not a hardcore K-pop fan. I usually discover groups out of curiosity: if I hear a song I like, I add it to my playlist and move on. The story of how I ended up paying attention to K-pop is a curious one, but that's for another day.

Like any good muggle, though, when I first explored Red Velvet, Wendy was the one who immediately caught my attention. Maybe it's because my musical background is rooted more in classical and indie music than in mainstream pop, or maybe it's simply because some of us can't help but be drawn to an extraordinary voice.

Although Wendy is the member I invest the most time and energy in, I also consider myself OT5. What fascinates me about Red Velvet isn't just one person -it's the group as a musical unit. Their harmonic layering, vocal textures, and the way each member's voice complements the others create something genuinely special. From a purely musical perspective, that's what makes Red Velvet one of the most interesting vocal groups in K-pop.

I think I understand the group as a whole. Every member contributes to its melodic, harmonic, and artistic identity. Red Velvet isn't simply five soloists standing next to each other; it's an ensemble where each member fulfills a different role. To me, that's the beauty of Red Velvet: they're stronger together than they are separately. What makes them exceptional isn't any one member, but the way five very different artists create something none of them could achieve alone.

When fandoms argue, I usually just watch from the sidelines- unless they're coming after Wendy, because she's basically my adopted daughter at this point. But generally, I ignore fanwars because they rarely accomplish anything. You'll almost never see me attacking another member simply because one of their fans is being an idiot. I like to think I'm capable of addressing an argument without tearing down someone who doesn't deserve it.

This time, however, I don't feel like staying silent.

For the past three days, I've watched people throw around some genuinely unfortunate comments that add absolutely nothing to the discussion. If all you have to contribute is hostility, maybe saying nothing is the better option.

I've also seen plenty of people speaking with an astonishing level of confidence, acting as though they possess the authority to decide who is and isn't talented. At this point, the discussion has completely abandoned constructive criticism and become little more than an excuse to attack people.

So here's my opinion.

Red Velvet is a five-member group. You're free to prefer one member over another. You can argue that Wendy is one of the strongest vocalists of her generation. You can argue that Seulgi is one of the best performers in K-pop, or that Joy has the most beautiful tone. Those are perfectly reasonable opinions.

Likewise, you can acknowledge that Irene has strengths that differ from Seulgi's. To avoid unnecessary drama, I'll mention something fairly uncontroversial: Irene arguably has the best flexibility in the group. Her lines, posture, and movements requiring flexibility-such as splits-have always been among her strongest technical qualities.

What I find disappointing is how an entire hate campaign emerged from a poorly translated Portuguese comment.

The original wording suggested that Irene outperformed Seulgi in certain aspects of dancing. Somehow, that ended up being translated as if it were saying Seulgi looked like "a complete amateur," which wasn't the explicit meaning at all.

If you actually read the original post in context, the nuance is that Irene can be better than Seulgi in specific areas-not that she's the better dancer overall. Ironically, the post itself establishes Seulgi as the benchmark for dancing within Red Velvet. The comparison only exists because Seulgi is already being treated as the group's standard. Unfortunately, an awkward piece of slang made even worse by an overzealous translation - completely changed that nuance and turned a limited comparison into what many people interpreted as a blanket attack on Seulgi's abilities.

Could the original comment have been phrased better? Sure.

Could the slang have been interpreted differently? Absolutely.

But anyone reading it in context should be able to recognize that it wasn't intended as an attack on Seulgi's overall ability. It was simply highlighting specific strengths Irene possesses. Turning that into days of harassment and personal attacks against Irene is a completely disproportionate response. (from both sides)

So yes, I'm going to defend Irene.

Because context matters.

I'm not going to pretend I'm a dance expert -I know enough to understand that I'm not one. But I do know that reducing twelve years of performances to a handful of poorly edited three-second clips is not serious analysis.

Let's stop judging talent through a single lens.

It's unreasonable to expect Irene to sing like Wendy, just as it's unreasonable to expect Wendy to dance exactly like Seulgi.

Wendy is one of the finest vocalists of her generation.

Seulgi is one of the strongest performers and dancers of her generation.

They set an incredibly high internal standard, and that often creates an unfair comparison for everyone else.

What I see are three fairly obvious points.

First, many people confuse energy with technique.

Seulgi performs with explosive power. Her weight transfer, rhythm, dynamics, coordination, and musicality are exceptional. She naturally drives the choreography forward.

Irene, on the other hand, approaches movement differently.

Her strengths lie in precision, clean execution, elegant lines, posture, body control, and consistency. She emphasizes refinement over explosiveness.

Those aren't inferior skills.

They're simply different ones.

Second, people underestimate what being the center actually requires.

The center isn't just the person standing in the middle. It requires consistency, spatial awareness, and visual balance. Irene has spent more than a decade serving as one of the group's visual anchors, helping maintain symmetry and cohesion within formations while carrying the additional scrutiny that naturally comes with occupying the center position.

Third, Red Velvet's vocal identity exists because of contrast.

If every member had Wendy's bright, powerful vocal color, the arrangements would become far less interesting.

Harmony depends on contrast.

Irene's lower, calmer tone provides balance within the group's vocal arrangements. In many of Red Velvet's R&B-oriented songs that restraint creates space for Wendy's belts, Seulgi's warmth, Joy's richness, and Yeri's lighter texture to coexist naturally.

Not every voice in a harmony is meant to dominate.

Sometimes its greatest value is precisely that it doesn't.

It's very easy to take a poorly edited clip lasting only a few seconds and build an entire narrative around it.

It's much harder to honestly evaluate someone's contribution over twelve years.

The entertainment industry is incredibly competitive. A member who genuinely contributed nothing would be difficult to justify keeping in one of Korea's most successful girl groups for more than a decade.

The fact that Red Velvet has maintained such a distinctive identity for twelve years suggests something much simpler: each member fulfills a role that the group depends on.

Remove any one of them, and Red Velvet still exists.

But it doesn't sound like Red Velvet anymore.

Finally, Irene is a human being.

She has good days.

She has bad days.

She gets tired.

She has openly spoken about struggling with insomnia. Like anyone else, there will be performances where she isn't operating at one hundred percent, physically or mentally.

No one should be reduced to the worst three seconds of their career.

We simply don't know what another person is going through at any given moment.

Sometimes people need criticism. - She has gotten it when needed

Sometimes they simply need a little empathy.

And I think, somewhere along the way, we've forgotten the difference.

Before I finish, I'd like to leave one final thought.

We spend so much time defending our favorites that we rarely stop to ask whether the hate we spread actually benefits them.

The strongest argument has never been the one that tears someone else down. It's the one that can stand on its own.

I'll admit that sometimes it's tempting to fight fire with fire, especially when the criticism feels unfair. But all that really does is create more resentment, more division, and more hate.

If we truly care about these artists, perhaps we should spend less time attacking each other and more time appreciating what made us fans in the first place.

People love asking how much bigger Red Velvet could have been if certain things had happened differently.
Sometimes I wonder how much bigger they could have been if we'd spent less time hating each other and more time supporting the group we all claim to love.

[reina☔️ @AWHlTENIGHT]

#WhoRemembers

[dane @eggfyolk]

@opetisasi @rylouette gak mau jawab ah ntar jawaban gue gak sopan 🫢

[expired ice cream @Teribuasundar]

LAF is the best choreography in recent time and Irene is one of the few idol who truly embodies a dance style Most never cared to see her dedication cause its easier to box her into their privileged and lazy narrative discrediting her every chance they get to prop up their fave

[ᵕ̈ @pinksbabymon]

there was already a better version

[dane @eggfyolk]

@opetisasi BENER GW JG KESEL BANGET UNTUNG MASIH BISA

[vivian ˚୨୧⋆｡ @universerene]

this is who they're saying can't keep up with seulgi btw

[dane @eggfyolk]

@opetisasi MAKASIH YDAH LEWAT, MAKASIH UDAH NGINGETIN

[dane @eggfyolk]

TENANGIN DIRI LU MILLIE

[ًً @eIsbangs]

millie just keeps rubbing it in his face she is unreal bro 😭

[dane @eggfyolk]

kirain temen sd ku yg ngibul kalo hari itu dia ulang tahun terus ngundang satu kelas ke rumahnya pas udah dateng dia malah tidur tuh udah parah ternyata ada yg ngibulnya begini jujur shock

[Bardan - Digital Marketer @bardanslm]

ada enggak temenmu yg halu-nya gak ketolong??? saya ada, saking halunya dulu 1 kelas sampai ditipu + guru2 sekolah ketipu semua.

gen Z tau AFI??? kayanya gak tau yah, kepanjangannya akademi fantasi indosiar. mirip2 indonesian idol lahhh tapi jadulll dulu hits bgt.

sebut saja temen saya namanya kiki.

kiki ngaku saudaraan sama mawar AFI 1.
kita semua mau diajak kiki jalan2 bareng 12 peserta AFI 1 naik beberapa mobil indosiar.
1 kelas diminta membagi mau duduk sebelah siapa, diskusi alot bgt sampe berantem 😂
saya udah booking sebelah feri AFI dan dibelakang MAWAR.
masing2 udah siap2 sampai hari-H, guru2 mau ikut jg sebagian.
bahkan orang tua ikut melepas anak2 jalan2 dengan para peserta AFI,
ibu saya uda bawain bekel wkwk.

pas hari-H gimana??? si kiki menghilang enggak ada kabar.
krik krik.

beberapa hari setelah itu si kiki masuk dengan muka tanpa rasa bersalah, kami yg masih kelas 3 SD cm bisa kebingungan.

TAMAT

[dane @eggfyolk]

kalo baik kenapa dulu sempet jadi penculik dan penyiksa aktivis bang

[Reftif @reftif_]

Purbaya : Presiden itu pinter banget, inget angka angka yang kita sebutkan, jadi saya gaboleh ngibul

Densu : Tapi kok bisa dikibulin Pak Dadang (kepala BGN yang tertangkap korupsi)

Purbaya : Bukan dikibulin, dia tau, dia hatinya baik, hehe

Sapuin terus pakkk😂

[dane @eggfyolk]

ngimpi lupa ngisi absen maganghub lagi juga parah sih

[dane @eggfyolk]

ADUH TERNYATA NAMANYA MARIO YH GUE TAUNYA IO IO DOANG MATENG KON

[nui @menuilish]

peran utama wayae tampil

[dane @eggfyolk]

anak petra shade

[nui @menuilish]

jamet sidoarjo and his pretty cici bf (11),
rulnyul four tweet au.

cw // harsh word , suggestive