@Funkyinmypants If anything all this proves is I’m ethical with my tier lists. I call a character broken or bad regardless of whether I lose to them or not.
@Roukuggle Character with a horrible recovery, horrible throws, bottom 3 combo game, mid edgeguarding compared to the rest of the cast, and then one thing he’s actually good at, neutral, he gets outclassed by maypul Clairen and lox
@RynnyRyn I don’t really like the defense that “a counterpick should be divisive” cuz atp it’s completely subjective how divisive a counterpick should be. If we played on great cave offensive I could also argue that “it’s a counterpick, it should be divisive.” It’s not a real defense tbh
@tipimon Lucas up b is top tier considering it’s probably the single best edgeguarding tool in the game. It’s a transcendent Nikita that sends straight horizontally and can hit multiple times
@Spiceepicklez@Churchofthebell I still think the sheer safety speed and range of it make it completely broken, but if everyone’s high profiling it like u mentioned then it could be falling off. If they fix that tho then I think it goes back to being top 3
@Spiceepicklez@Churchofthebell I think Clairen dtilt is a top 3 dtilt tbf. Her up tilt, fsmash, and dsmash are also really good. Over all tho I think slade easily has the best grounded normals LOL. Also Clairen not having a real jab nerfs her grounded normals a lot since it’s super important