Dr Mario Trabucco della Torretta

Anglo-Sicilian classical archaeologist, defender of the #ElginMarbles. On @BBC5live, @GBNews, @SkyNews, @LBC, @theCriticMag. Proudly #Conservative. DM x media

[Dr Mario Trabucco della Torretta @elginmarbles]

Greek millions financing a state-driven disinformation campaign to get the #ElginMarbles away from @britishmuseum . It won't succeed, not on my watch. History must be respected: all of it, not just the parts we like.

https://t.co/Z1RR1UeHYv via @YouTube

[Dr Mario Trabucco della Torretta @elginmarbles]

@ChaponaBike123 Nope, it was part of the Kingdom of England, which had a Norman king who was born in France. Just in the same way that having a Hannoverian on the English throne didn't make Britain part of the Holy Roman Empire.

[F. A. Hayek Quotes @FAHayekSays]

“The essence of equality before the law is that people should be treated alike in spite of the fact that they are different.”

— Friedrich Hayek

[Dr Mario Trabucco della Torretta @elginmarbles]

@roshbeth @LordRickettsP What a load of tripe! Nothing illegal in the British Museum's ownership of the Elgin Marbles or the Benin Bronzes. Go read some books

[Dr Mario Trabucco della Torretta @elginmarbles]

@fakehistoryhunt It looks like it doesn't include a chapter on "Did Lord Elgin steal the Elgin Marbles?" You might want to consider adding it in the next, much enlarged edition

[Dr Mario Trabucco della Torretta @elginmarbles]

That is not accurate at all. The statue of Athena inside the Parthenon was much more like a bullion reserve and a display of status and wealth than a cultic statue. The real cultic image of Athena, which received the peplos and the offerings was a much smaller xoanon in the Erechteion (it was inside the temple of Athena Polias, but it was moved once this was destroyed by the Persians).

[Dr Mario Trabucco della Torretta @elginmarbles]

@LandsknechtPike A similar case is the rescue of the Elgin Marbles from the wreck of the Mentor, the ship transporting part of them to Malta from Athens, which foundered off the island of Kythera in 1802.

https://t.co/aBSMInRHLb

[Dr Mario Trabucco della Torretta @elginmarbles]

Balle. Lo studioso turco Prof. Edhem Eldem ha pubblicato già nel 2011 abbastanza documentazione degli archivi ottomani da chiudere per sempre il caso in favore di Elgin. In questi documenti, il Gran Vizier riferisce al Sultano che i funzionari avevano verificato i dettagli dell'acquisizione e "nessun inatteso impedimento è stato trovato" pertanto raccomandano al sultano di far scrivere al governatore di Atene con l'ordine di rilasciare il resto della collezione che era stato precedentemente trattenuto, e il documento riporta la nota del sultano a margine con l'autorizzazione a procedere come suggerito.
La funzionaria turca mente sapendo di mentire.

[Dr Mario Trabucco della Torretta @elginmarbles]

Oh my days, and you are supposed to be working in International law? Wow, man.

So the Turks say they looked in the wrong place and found nothing and you immediately disregard all the remaining MONUMENTAL body of evidence for the permission? Double wow.

Yu may want to consider a career pivot.

[Dr Mario Trabucco della Torretta @elginmarbles]

@SkepticSupreme @Pnyxion @TheJadeWarwick Hear hear!

[Dr Mario Trabucco della Torretta @elginmarbles]

Excluding families with small kids from using e-gates at border control is absolutely moronic. It could take two minutes, instead it takes 30+ all because they have to verify that a toddler is not a dangerous terrorist
#notgoodenough

[RampinRider @RampinRider]

@elginmarbles The Antonino Salinas Museum really have put their foot in it. One day they will come to regret having buckled to the pressure.

[Dr Mario Trabucco della Torretta @elginmarbles]

Absurd that a bunch of idiots is left free to highjack the events program of a major national cultural institution

https://t.co/rrVCa8VQRk

[Dr Mario Trabucco della Torretta @elginmarbles]

If you know, you know...

#handsoffthemarbles
#keepingourmarbles

[Dr Mario Trabucco della Torretta @elginmarbles]

You don't have to take my word for it. We are lucky to have plenty of experts on the history of international law and its foundational concepts, such as the right of conquest. Here is a great book about it:

The Right of Conquest: The Acquisition of Territory by Force in ... - Sharon Korman - Google Libri https://t.co/PgbD3D0bt1

[Dr Mario Trabucco della Torretta @elginmarbles]

@iosif_lazaridis These are the lovely fairytales of Greek national mythmaking. They are a necessary part in every process of state formation.

But international law, and the rights deriving from it, are the grown-up option in any discussion on the Elgin Marbles

[Dr Mario Trabucco della Torretta @elginmarbles]

@iosif_lazaridis And yet, taking the metopes from the building was exactly the first thing they started from. A bit odd that they should start from the things they had -in your view- no permission from, instead of those they were authorised to do, wouldn't you say?

[Dr Mario Trabucco della Torretta @elginmarbles]

Let's keave aside the whataboutery and focus on your point of the "Ottoman occupation" of Athens in 1801. This is utter and total poppycock.

An occupation, in international law, must be temporary and requires that the occupied population does not switch allegiance to the occupier. Now, if you want to prove that after 343 years the citizen of Athens were still faithful to the Duke of Athens and the Acciajuoli family, go right ahead, I'll get my popcorn.

The truth is that Athens had been conquered in 1458, and that conquest had been settled long before Elgin set foot in Athens. This made Athens an integral part of the Ottoman Empire and the Ottoman government the only legitimate and internationally-recognized power over the city and all it contained. End of.

[Dr Mario Trabucco della Torretta @elginmarbles]

You like using rhe word "stealing", eh? Yet when the prople it was allegegly stolen from say black on white that "there was no unespected impediment", that "stones of this kind had already been given to the English", and that "there is no harm in ceding them", this makes it pretty much a slam dunk, making your request for further paperwork as unnecessary as it is tedious.

Also, why should alwsys be the Brits to produce extra paperwork every time a Greek opens their mouth, while the Greeks can apparently talk about theft without ever so slightly being asked to prove their allegations?

It's time to change that.