@parkeg1@jk_rowling But you wouldn’t be scared of it. Like we are when we see these in the Ladies! Men need to accept this into the Gents so we women can be safe in OUR spaces!
Just as most men aren't rapists, voyeurs or domestic abusers, so there are plenty of trans women who pose no risk to women and girls.
However, some trans-identified men provably are a risk. We know this because it's a matter of public record. Trans women have been convicted of all the crimes listed above, and of femicide.
No study has ever proven that trans-identified men don't have the same pattern of criminality as every other kind of man. All available evidence points the other way: they are just as likely as any other man to be a rapist or a woman-killer. The evidence is plain to see in government statistics and court reports, however much you'd like to pretend none of those exist.
Demanding that women and girls pretend there is no risk to themselves, which you do constantly, is itself abusive. Your insistence that you belong in women-only spaces, and your pretence that the likelihood of harm to females in those spaces doesn't increase with every man who's allowed inside, mark you out as precisely the kind of man who should be nowhere near women's and girls' locker rooms.
Decent men, however they identify, respect women's boundaries. Even if they themselves would never dream of harming a girl or woman, they are under no illusions about what some of their fellow men will do if given access to spaces where women and girls are undressed or otherwise vulnerable.
As for women who commit terrible crimes: I have literally never heard any woman deny that Myra Hindley, Karla Homolka or Joanna Dennehy are female. Nor have I ever seen a woman argue that being a woman entitles them to enter spaces reserved for vulnerable people, without having a professional or family-related reason for being there.
Yet another difference between women and trans-identified men of your type is that the former aren't demanding, en masse, the right to go where they clearly don't belong - for instance, into a nursery where they have neither a child nor a job, or onto an intensive care ward when they know nobody and have no medical qualifications, purely because they consider themselves to be especially kind and nurturing. Even if such an interloper didn't hurt a child or a critically ill person, women as a class understand how inappropriate it would be to push themselves into those spaces and just how much justified disquiet they'd cause by doing so.
The entitlement and disregard you show for the feelings and boundaries of women and girls are of those of an unfortunately all-too-common type of male. You believe you have the right to demand that women sacrifice their own personal safety to validate your feelings about yourself. You're either indifferent to the fact that you might make women and girls uneasy at best, and scared at worst, or you're well aware that you'll have that effect, and the thought gives you a thrill. Nothing about that makes you a woman. On the contrary, you just keep proving, over and over again, that you are a man.
@Big_Mike_44310@Riley_Gaines_ What part of this makes you say she’s no longer working to protect women and girls in sport? That’s literally what she’s saying here. There’s no hate, just truth
@BrainsinNo@ArendelLady@jk_rowling And yet that’s exactly what you said. You can’t use the men’s cos you would “face harassment or violence”. You are scared. The same way we fear men in the women’s. It isn’t personal. Blame self ID. If transition was a req for a GC then this probably would not be happening.
@BrainsinNo@joolzzt@jk_rowling You are NOT a woman! The word trans shows that explicitly. You are as much as threat to biological women as any other man for all we know. If men won’t accept trans women in their spaces, that’s not women’s problem. We are not your protector.
@RowanGaleTyree@jk_rowling Common sense? I think that’s what you’ll find you are missing… the rest of us ARE talking common sense when we say trans women are men!
@BrainsinNo@jk_rowling@lnmackenzie1 And neither do we - self ID makes it impossible for us. Trans has been a thing for decades and we didn’t have an issue. The issue arrived because of self ID and creepy men pretending to be women. We can’t lawfully exclude some males and not others so we exclude all for our safety
@BrainsinNo@jk_rowling@lnmackenzie1 Of course it’s a valid argument. I do not have to justify my feelings - any more than you have to justify why you “feel like a woman”.
I made the distinction cos it is not an “anti-trans” stance - it’s pro female rights.
How do you justify your need to be in our spaces?
@BrainsinNo@jk_rowling@lnmackenzie1 No - the right is “excluding males” - it’s not specific to trans women! Females need to have the right to say “no” to males - for anything - it doesn’t matter why. Every scenario and every female’s reason will be different, but all are valid.
@BrainsinNo@jk_rowling@lnmackenzie1 The moment a male person is required to be allowed into a space or sport designated only for females, those females in that space have lost their rights to the female only space/sport. Why do you not get that?
@nulamoonsnail@Glinner You have not used the word “woman” in any of that. I’m on your side, but responses like this don’t help. “I’m not female - but I am a woman” is the argument. What is the rebuttal to that?
@BrainsinNo@dudie_123@xxxDreaxxxx@LooneyOldLady@salltweets Safeguarding means protecting the vulnerable from foreseeable risk, not making them accept that risk to accommodate others.
We ban ALL dogs from lambing fields, not because all dogs attack sheep, but because some do — and we can’t know which ones in advance. Perfectly reasonable
@BrainsinNo@dudie_123@xxxDreaxxxx@LooneyOldLady@salltweets Our feelings & wants matter too.
It’s about safety and fairness.
Self ID makes it impossible for women to differentiate between men who genuinely think they’re women & men who are just perverts. We can’t allow 1 without the other so we choose none.
@BrainsinNo@dudie_123@xxxDreaxxxx@LooneyOldLady@salltweets Your first sentence is very telling. Can’t u see the contradiction? This is exactly what you are trying to do to us. Women HAVE rights and they are SEX based. Trans are trying to remove those rights against our will because of their feelings. We say no - doesn’t matter why.
@MuckerWes@StockelThomas@Glinner 😂 your utter incapacity to see your own face in this comment is hilarious. Trans people are trying to change facts - that’s everything about the whole movement!
@patdafenet@itsnwts Why aren’t men responsible for the feelings of their spouses and families? It’s not the girl’s problem - it’s his for having no control.
@BlokeOnWheels Every job has a “meaning” otherwise you wouldn’t get paid to do it. Whether it means anything to YOU is irrelevant - if you can do it and you need the money then you should do it. And the act of doing it and providing for yourself should be a positive impact on your mental health