@LKoncsol I was also surprised when he brought up suicide. I think he just did this so people would remember his point. Also, this speech was given 15 years ago. I don’t people viewed mental illnesses back then the same way they do now. #laylit20
@litwithlayton I resonated with how he said if you worship money/power/beauty, you’ll never have enough and you’ll feel like a fraud. Society (mainly through media) worships these things, so it’s like we’re set up to feel bad about ourselves. Companies make money off this insecurity. #laylit20
@zhack999 I think it made sense for a Kelly to sacrifice his son because it was the only way he could win the game. If the situation was different, I think he would sacrifice the rest of the men to save his family. #laylit20
@Nanditaa_K I think in high pressure situations you need to think more with logic and less with your emotions, since emotions are fleeting and can distract from the truth in front of you. However, emotions still need to be in the picture so that you don’t take unreasonable risks. #laylit20
@LKoncsol They used the numbing meds because they believed that “society would collapse if people used sex for nothing but pleasure.” This is ironic because their society seems to be collapsing (behind the scenes, at least) with them. #laylit20
@Nanditaa_K I agree. He also said he did it to try and “restore a certain amount of innocent pleasure to the world.” It just shows how people will use faulty systems to justify their actions. #laylit20
@litwithlayton I think that Newt shows traditionally masculine traits because he essentially takes the lead in this interaction. This matches well with Catharine who is forward with her feelings, but passive when it comes to actually making a move. #laylit20
@greatgabsby20 I also noticed that their dialogue was simple and brief. I think lots of works that concern forbidden love are dramatic and elaborate in their language. Vonnegut may be trying to show that true love is simple and sweet. #laylit20
While the story was disturbing, I don’t think it’s a realistic thing that could happen in the future. However, I couldn’t help but think that maybe a rise in designer babies could lead a society like that. #laylit20
What’s ironic about this “equal” society is that it’s really not equal at all. Some people have more handicaps than others, and thus suffer more, all because of the traits they were born with. #laylit20
At the end of the novel, F seems to regret worrying about professional boundaries between her and A. She’s “ashamed of her petty fears for her reputation.” Do you guys think that sometimes, professional boundaries should be crossed for the well-being of the child? #laylit20
@litwithlayton One key lesson we can learn from Adam is that idolizing people almost always leads to disappointment. It can be comforting to believe that certain people are perfect and to try to aspire to that. But of course, everyone has flaws. #laylit20
@simroth38 @EschbachJackie I think if something bad does happen to him, we could question Fiona’s decision to allow the transfusion. She did it on the basis of saving him from his religion, but here we can see that it’s not that simple, since he’s starting to regret the court’s decision. #laylit20
@LKoncsol She should definitely tell J what happened, but judging her character, she probably won’t. Her major flaw is that she avoids any situation that could evoke heavy emotions in her. That’s why at the dinner table with J, she asks him questions like an “interviewer.” #laylit20
McEwan highlights the blurry lines between Adam’s adolescence and adulthood in this chapter. Adam says “I’m eighteen, I can be wherever I like.” Soon after, he gives “a gasp of adolescent exasperation.” He’s 18 and tall, but looks like a “small child in shock.” #laylit20
@litwithlayton I think McEwan is trying to show the effects of Fiona’s deteriorating marriage. I don’t think she’s attracted to him, but more of the attention that he gives her. He went through so much just to have a conversation with her, while Jack betrayed her. #laylit20
@EschbachJackie I saw it more as him showing how religion can be complicated. They’re devoted to God, but they also love their son. It reminds be of the Christian LGBTQ+ community. They also love God, but struggle because other Christians are against a key part of their identity. #laylit20
“If he had given her more time..she would have reached a clear decision and worked constructively..to end the marriage or rebuild it” (140). Fiona needs more time because she wants to be emotionless when making a decision, which I don’t think is possible. Again we see- #laylit20
“Religions, moral systems...were like peaks...none obviously higher, more important, truer...What was to judge?” (116). How much more peaceful would our world be if everyone had this mindset? If people could accept that different people believe different things. #laylit20